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Post by Jim on Feb 22, 2017 12:28:55 GMT
There was an article in CRT Boaters update about overtaking, they asked for suggestions for horn signals! They already exist, just that folks don't know them. So I sent what I had, thought it might be good to put here too, it can be printed out and laminated Could do with another, "NO! I'm a grumpy old twat"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 12:38:37 GMT
The problem with horn signals is you never know if they're being used, or if the user is just over excitable (multiple blips on the horn at a location affording no view).
Car drivers are the same. They seem to wish to play a tune.
Rog
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Post by Delta9 on Feb 22, 2017 12:56:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 13:00:38 GMT
The problem with horn signals is you never know if they're being used, or if the user is just over excitable (multiple blips on the horn at a location affording no view). Car drivers are the same. They seem to wish to play a tune. Rog I used to love hooting at a road bridge over a canal - only if a car was coming though, confuses the hell out of em
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 13:03:28 GMT
You need one of these :-
COMING THROUGH!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 13:07:30 GMT
The best horn signal on the cut is a very loud one lasting a few seconds followed by decisive maneouvering of the vessel. As long as the other steerer is aware you are there and can see what you want to do its probably okay. No real need for technical multiple blasts. Proper signals are needed on larger waterways but on the cut you are usually just trying to inform one other steerer rather than several. I know that one blast means going to starboard which is wrong for overtaking but i think gaining the attention of the other steerer is the key. A long loud blast does this nicely.
I've got a nice old Westinghouse train horn plumbed to an old fire extinguisher which I have put air into with a 12v tyre pump to a pressure of around 100psi.
Its loud and authoritative.
At least thats what I like to think anyway !!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 13:16:00 GMT
To fully comply, a long blast must be four seconds, a short blast one second or thereabouts! This might make all the difference if you collide with a boat and it goes to court.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 13:24:17 GMT
To fully comply, a long blast must be four seconds, a short blast one second or thereabouts! This might make all the difference if you collide with a boat and it goes to court. Obviously if the other steerer is unwilling or unable to accomodate your maneouvering requirements then you abort the maneouver. Always sensible to handle a boat with a view to being able to abort at any stage. Most people on canal boats are steering from outside the vessel so body language and gestures can be used to indicate if the maneouver is acceptable. I don't advocate just blasting the horn and going past regardless that would be foolish.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 22, 2017 17:13:59 GMT
I'd like that horn from Nordlys. Imagine that at Little Venice at 4am!
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Post by loafer on Feb 22, 2017 18:46:24 GMT
I don't think the COLREGS sound signals apply to non-tidal inland waterways, do they? Who's going to know them?
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Post by IainS on Feb 22, 2017 20:11:38 GMT
I don't think the COLREGS sound signals apply to non-tidal inland waterways, do they? Who's going to know them? That is the main problem: there's no way of knowing if the skipper being signaled actually knows them. The ones quoted are in Colregs, with the exception of "I am turning round", which does, however appear in the General Canal Byelaws 1965. (Byelaw 12)
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 22, 2017 20:50:12 GMT
Here's a horn signal worth trying:
- .... ..- -. -.. . .-. -... --- .- -
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Post by phil70 on Feb 22, 2017 20:57:32 GMT
To fully comply, a long blast must be four seconds, a short blast one second or thereabouts! This might make all the difference if you collide with a boat and it goes to court. The very reason that I've always used the correct signal even though I know that the majority don't have a clue as to their meaning (more's the pity) Phil
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Post by loafer on Feb 23, 2017 1:08:17 GMT
T H U N D E R B O A T
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Post by loafer on Feb 23, 2017 1:09:51 GMT
NF, forgot to quote you.
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