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Post by canaldweller on Apr 13, 2017 16:11:30 GMT
There's no mention of compo for clicking on Foxy's links though.
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Post by lulu on Apr 13, 2017 17:05:31 GMT
Is there any good justification for punishing people at all? Is it just about revenge and retaliation? Keep dangerous people out of general population by all means, but what is the benefit of making them suffer, killing them, or imprisoning them to live in uncomfortable conditions?
It doesn't even work as a good prevention, countries with stricter punishments often have higher crime rates. It seems very uncivilised.
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Post by thebfg on Apr 13, 2017 19:02:28 GMT
And how does leaving another family in mourning help anyone. It won't bring any victims back. Everyone remains dead. Furthermore if an error has been made, nothing can be done to correct it. I actually feel that a life time in jail is a more fitting sentence, than a quick painless exit, where the only people suffering are the families left behind. I realise you disagree, and equally that we will not persuade each other of the correctness of our view. I am not able to say my view is right, but it is sincerely held. Rog Some good points. I wish our prison system was a scary hard place to be. Chain gangs could do some good in this country
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 13, 2017 19:12:37 GMT
And how does leaving another family in mourning help anyone. It won't bring any victims back. Everyone remains dead. Furthermore if an error has been made, nothing can be done to correct it. I actually feel that a life time in jail is a more fitting sentence, than a quick painless exit, where the only people suffering are the families left behind. I realise you disagree, and equally that we will not persuade each other of the correctness of our view. I am not able to say my view is right, but it is sincerely held. Rog Some good points. I wish our prison system was a scary hard place to be. Chain gangs could do some food in this country Assuming you mean "good", I believe the people you see picking up litter alongside the motorway are prisoners.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 19:13:51 GMT
I too have had to take several dogs for their last visit to the vets. Always peaceful and smooth, even with one dog that was trying to tear my face off. Sadly I have visited and watched a number of loved ones die a slow tortuous death of terminal illness. I would have been prosecuted for cruelty had I permitted a dog to suffer in that way. The world's a funny old place. Rog Like as in totally agree. We had a creaking gate dog one night then had her put to sleep at the vets the next morning, no fuss, no drama, no pain or suffering - except for us, her owners! Next one was suffering with liver cancer and was put to sleep in our front room. Same as previous dog, he'd had enough and didn't suffer when he cashed his chips In at the hands of our sympathetic and skillful family vet. I'm dreading bonehead going, there is a dwarf who is rather attached to him who will get an early lesson in life, death, love, happiness, sadness and grieving. That will be harder to take than suffering the same loss as an adult with a fairly good grasp of those subjects.
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Post by tonyqj on Apr 13, 2017 19:15:58 GMT
As pathetic a response as it is, you can give a pardon and financially compensate someone for wrongful imprisonment. A posthumous pardon doesn't cut it. Until we can give life, I cannot justify death as a sentence. But life in prison, should mean every second of life. Rog Perhaps we should allow people to choose? Execution verses 25 years in jail? And give them the opposite. Yes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 19:21:21 GMT
Just to say...
I knew that things didn't always go well with putting animals to sleep as I had a previous conversation with someone about it. I now know how very very small the risk is, and apologise to anyone who might think me posts were 'bad'.
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Post by patty on Apr 13, 2017 21:16:32 GMT
Just to say... I knew that things didn't always go well with putting animals to sleep as I had a previous conversation with someone about it. I now know how very very small the risk is, and apologise to anyone who might think me posts were 'bad'. you have reminded me of when I took a very sick hamster to be put down...the dying animals screams could be heard in the waiting room..that is one they didn't get right.. Dogs on the other hand all seemed to pass very quietly and peacefully
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Post by Saltysplash on Apr 14, 2017 14:02:53 GMT
I remember driving down a lane one afternoon and a dog dashed out from a driveway, I couldnt stop in time and ran over the dog. Rushed up to it and it was obviously on its last legs struggling to breath. I couldnt just leave it there dying and with no reply to the house at the end of the drive, I took a shovel out of the boot and hit the dog over the head to put it quickly out of its misery.
Imagine my surprise when a couple of days later, driving down the same lane I saw the same dog sitting at the end of the drive with a bandage round its head.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 17:01:12 GMT
I remember driving down a lane one afternoon and a dog dashed out from a driveway, I couldnt stop in time and ran over the dog. Rushed up to it and it was obviously on its last legs struggling to breath. I couldnt just leave it there dying and with no reply to the house at the end of the drive, I took a shovel out of the boot and hit the dog over the head to put it quickly out of its misery. Imagine my surprise when a couple of days later, driving down the same lane I saw the same dog sitting at the end of the drive with a bandage round its head. Were there any witnesses to this?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 14, 2017 17:02:03 GMT
The whole point of capital punishment in the United States is to keep the psychological torture going, right up to the very end...
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 14, 2017 17:56:43 GMT
Just to say... I knew that things didn't always go well with putting animals to sleep as I had a previous conversation with someone about it. I now know how very very small the risk is, and apologise to anyone who might think me posts were 'bad'. We often say things that we mean or don't mean, or perhaps we meant or didn't mean at the time and have changed our mind since. I think people have to be judged on their long-term performance. Stay around sarah, you do add a viewpoint of your own. Our cat is 17 years old and I already hate the thought of how we can handle him best when it's his last day. The kids on my bus say I should have him stuffed and place him behind the windscreen!!
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Post by lollygagger on Apr 14, 2017 18:03:22 GMT
Get Salty splash to clobber it with a spade?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 18:12:12 GMT
Just to say... I knew that things didn't always go well with putting animals to sleep as I had a previous conversation with someone about it. I now know how very very small the risk is, and apologise to anyone who might think me posts were 'bad'. We often say things that we mean or don't mean, or perhaps we meant or didn't mean at the time and have changed our mind since. I think people have to be judged on their long-term performance. Stay around sarah, you do add a viewpoint of your own. Our cat is 17 years old and I already hate the thought of how we can handle him best when it's his last day. The kids on my bus say I should have him stuffed and place him behind the windscreen!! Thank you for the welcome to Thunderbout!
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Post by phil70 on Apr 14, 2017 18:53:13 GMT
Ho-ho, I see what you did there, Thunder bout indeed. Oh and yes please do stick around. Phil
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