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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 21:37:13 GMT
I guess you mean further north than Inverness, where we drove to yesterday. When I was there last they were defiantly on the road along loch Ness. And on the a82. Maybe it's been longer than I thought since I've been. ETA they are more often on the single track roads bit we have seen them on A roads too. TBH I never saw them yesterday, I drove from Fort Wiilam to Fort Augustus and on to Inverness. i will look out on the A82 on the way back to Glasgow in the morning but don't remember them coming up.
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 17, 2017 21:51:06 GMT
The driving in Aberdeen is very aggressive - folk would rather have an accident than allow you to change lane. But you get used to it. I think the driving in the Highlands in generally fine, simply because there's not much traffic. But the A82 is renown for being bad, a very frustrating single carriageway trunk road with very limited overtaking opportunities and full of tourists and (dare I say) caravans. Oh and Glaswegians! I'm sure it figures high in the accident statistics. If I were going to drive back Glasgow way from Inverness, I'd take the A9 unless you particularly want to spend twice as long just for the view.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 22:09:00 GMT
The driving in Aberdeen is very aggressive - folk would rather have an accident than allow you to change lane. But you get used to it. I think the driving in the Highlands in generally fine, simply because there's not much traffic. But the A82 is renown for being bad, a very frustrating single carriageway trunk road with very limited overtaking opportunities and full of tourists and (dare I say) caravans. Oh and Glaswegians! I'm sure it figures high in the accident statistics. If I were going to drive back Glasgow way from Inverness, I'd take the A9 unless you particularly want to spend twice as long just for the view. The Glaswegian drivers are bastards. There is massive roadworks going on the M74 just south and make the tiniest mistake on the roundabout which is like a scene from a war movie you are roundly blasted. I'm ready for them tomorrow. We are now further South West so it's A82/85 I'm afraid.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 18, 2017 7:27:24 GMT
Well they are both at fault. If cars start merging too early then they are not making maximum use of the available road space. Bollox. I have seen this all too often - those on the right lane are queue-jumpers, pure and simple. So what about 'available road space' - I don't see anyone actually doing any work at the 'road works' - if you want 'more road space' get those lazy fuckers out of bed. As you see, by the type of car: Audi. "I've got money to buy an Audi and look at my fancy hair-do." Nobody likes cheats. BUT! - when the situation first becomes apparent, merging should be on a one-to-one basis, like a zipper closing. Each car on the left should let ONE car on the right come in.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 18, 2017 7:30:49 GMT
Think of all the people inconvenienced behind them so they could have their little stress over nothing. Why even think about them? I don't! They are all polluters and destroying the atmosphere for my grandchildrens' grandchildren. If they are in a hurry they should have got out of bed earlier.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 18, 2017 7:31:54 GMT
What do I think... I think that woman looks like Delta9`s avatar... (sound of chortling in Scandinavia)
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 18, 2017 7:34:58 GMT
Firstly merge in turn. It's not their fault peeple queue up in the left lane. I found Scotland great to drive in. All the signs telling people to allow overtaking and not doing so cause road rage are great. Every time I have caught up with someone in the highland and islands they have let me go. When it's safe they give a quick indication to the left. It's great. On the single lanes they will always let you go at a passing place. I have found Scottish drivers to be very considerate. What signs saying allow overtaking? I've put several up just before these signs:
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 18, 2017 7:40:48 GMT
"And anyway she wasn't a stereotypical Audi driver because she was using her indicators."
"And whilst that is obviously one of the oldest and lamest jokes going..."
Mirror, mirror, on the wall.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 18, 2017 7:41:41 GMT
I wonder how much sooner Mr Dashcam would have arrived at his destination if he had let Mrs Lost-It in... He would still be there if he had let everyone in from the right-hand lane.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 8:01:06 GMT
Think of all the people inconvenienced behind them so they could have their little stress over nothing. Why even think about them? I don't! They are all polluters and destroying the atmosphere for my grandchildrens' grandchildren. If they are in a hurry they should have got out of bed earlier. I meant as in those selfish pair of prats buggered a lot of people about for their little spat - wouldnt have mattered when you left if you happened to be on the road at the same time as those two dickheads!
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 18, 2017 8:14:58 GMT
Well they are both at fault. If cars start merging too early then they are not making maximum use of the available road space. Bollox. I have seen this all too often - those on the right lane are queue-jumpers, pure and simple. So what about 'available road space' - I don't see anyone actually doing any work at the 'road works' - if you want 'more road space' get those lazy fuckers out of bed. No doubt in Finland it isn't an issue because the only merging in turn to be done is waiting to shag a moose, but in the UK's congested roads, failing to use both lanes and then merging in turn at the narrows causes unnecessary congestion because the tailback goes much further back, impeding a roundabout or whatever the previous junction is before the narrows. This is why there are sometimes signs saying "use both lanes, merge in turn", and it's a pity they aren't used more often.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 8:23:08 GMT
Well they are both at fault. If cars start merging too early then they are not making maximum use of the available road space. Bollox. I have seen this all too often - those on the right lane are queue-jumpers, pure and simple. So what about 'available road space' - I don't see anyone actually doing any work at the 'road works' - if you want 'more road space' get those lazy fuckers out of bed. As you see, by the type of car: Audi. "I've got money to buy an Audi and look at my fancy hair-do." Nobody likes cheats. BUT! - when the situation first becomes apparent, merging should be on a one-to-one basis, like a zipper closing. Each car on the left should let ONE car on the right come in. If you think that constitutes a good and acceptable standard of driving I'm sure glad you don't drive buses over here,, though seeing the way some bus drivers drive over here you'd probably fit in quite well. its one thing to say 'no body likes cheats' but when you have collided with the 'cheat' you end up damaging your car and have a lot of form filling to do. Submitting that dash cam footage to your insurance company would hardly absolve you of part responsibility for the accident so you'd lose your NCB too. So I'm afraid it's you talking bollox.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 18, 2017 15:05:21 GMT
Bollox. I have seen this all too often - those on the right lane are queue-jumpers, pure and simple. So what about 'available road space' - I don't see anyone actually doing any work at the 'road works' - if you want 'more road space' get those lazy fuckers out of bed. This is why there are sometimes signs saying "use both lanes, merge in turn" Yes, but "merge in turn" does not mean "Audi, BMW and other-fancy-car drivers overtake everyone and push your way in at the end, some moron will let you in." I know their game. I am a considerate driver but I'll not be a mug for some cretin.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 18, 2017 15:10:05 GMT
Bollox. I have seen this all too often - those on the right lane are queue-jumpers, pure and simple. So what about 'available road space' - I don't see anyone actually doing any work at the 'road works' - if you want 'more road space' get those lazy fuckers out of bed. As you see, by the type of car: Audi. "I've got money to buy an Audi and look at my fancy hair-do." Nobody likes cheats. BUT! - when the situation first becomes apparent, merging should be on a one-to-one basis, like a zipper closing. Each car on the left should let ONE car on the right come in. If you think that constitutes a good and acceptable standard of driving I'm sure glad you don't drive buses over here,, though seeing the way some bus drivers drive over here you'd probably fit in quite well. I cut my driving teeth on the Green Line 735 Hertford to Oxford Street. The biggest vehicle goes first. Those who hesitate are lost! 4 years driving buses around Hertfordshire and Essex and in-&-out of London. Also used to do the 724 Stansted/Harlow to Heathrow. And many other routes.
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 18, 2017 15:13:58 GMT
This is why there are sometimes signs saying "use both lanes, merge in turn" Yes, but "merge in turn" does not mean "Audi, BMW and other-fancy-car drivers overtake everyone and push your way in at the end, some moron will let you in." I know their game. I am a considerate driver but I'll not be a mug for some cretin. If everybody used both lanes and merged in turn, the issue wouldn't arise. It's only when everybody, sheeplike, gets into the single lane hundreds of yards in advance, that opportunity for queue jumping is given. So in summary, if everyone drove properly and used both lanes, merged in turn, there would be no queue jumping. So you are part of the problem.
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