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Post by peterboat on Sept 5, 2017 17:54:08 GMT
he problem is that due to so much sub letting going on do they really know who was in there? so some claimants could be genuine but have no real proof, which then gives the scammers a chance to rip off the system
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 5, 2017 17:54:44 GMT
As it's turned into a free-for-all, Nigerian scammers too, here's my contribution: "There are still ashes still blowing over us when the train goes past. We're being covered in the ash of our dead friends and relatives."
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Post by patty on Sept 5, 2017 18:00:14 GMT
I don't think we need the horrors of war to learn to cope with the disasters of peace... there will always be tragedy whether its on a large scale such as this awful tower block fire or on personal basis.. some cope some don't equally in the arena of war some cope and some peoples minds torn by PTSD.. I hate the 'pull yourself together brigade'...
Some need help to develop coping strategies..theres nowt wrong with that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2017 18:07:33 GMT
. I hate the 'pull yourself together brigade'... Doctor doctor I feel like a pair of curtains.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 5, 2017 18:09:27 GMT
I don't think we need the horrors of war to learn to cope with the disasters of peace... there will always be tragedy whether its on a large scale such as this awful tower block fire or on personal basis.. some cope some don't equally in the arena of war some cope and some peoples minds torn by PTSD.. I hate the 'pull yourself together brigade'... Some need help to develop coping strategies..theres nowt wrong with that. whilst I admire and respect and cannot ever fully understand what our previous generations went through. it is unfair to say they coped so we should. They kind of had to cope and had been through some bad stuff which prepares you mentally, our current generation haven't had those experiences to toughen them up, so as you say some people will need that little hand to sort themselves out.
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Post by dyertribe on Sept 9, 2017 8:53:02 GMT
I don't think we need the horrors of war to learn to cope with the disasters of peace... there will always be tragedy whether its on a large scale such as this awful tower block fire or on personal basis.. some cope some don't equally in the arena of war some cope and some peoples minds torn by PTSD.. I hate the 'pull yourself together brigade'... Some need help to develop coping strategies..theres nowt wrong with that. whilst I admire and respect and cannot ever fully understand what our previous generations went through. it is unfair to say they coped so we should. They kind of had to cope and had been through some bad stuff which prepares you mentally, our current generation haven't had those experiences to toughen them up, so as you say some people will need that little hand to sort themselves out. We assume thy coped, when you speak to the partners and loved ones of the survivors you find many didn't cope well.
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Post by geo on Sept 9, 2017 11:41:50 GMT
We assume thy coped, when you speak to the partners and loved ones of the survivors you find many didn't cope well. Far more did not cope than did, most had some kind of dragon on their shoulder. Some were shot for not coping thankfully we have learnt but still have more to learn.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 11:52:41 GMT
Exactly. And the damage lasts for decades in families affected.
My mothers oldest brother died on an aircraft testing accident in ww2. Not even fighting. The effect on his mother and his siblings was huge. Its possible he killed himself deliberately as no-one knows what happened but what I do know is that 2 of his brothers and one of his sisters (my mother) later died from suicide. And one of my cousins as well (daughter of a surviving brother) Who can say if this was all war related or not but it wouldn't surprise me if it was. You can't underestimate the effect of this kind of trauma on certain types of individuals.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 12:30:15 GMT
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Post by JohnV on Sept 9, 2017 14:11:10 GMT
whilst I admire and respect and cannot ever fully understand what our previous generations went through. it is unfair to say they coped so we should. They kind of had to cope and had been through some bad stuff which prepares you mentally, our current generation haven't had those experiences to toughen them up, so as you say some people will need that little hand to sort themselves out. We assume thy coped, when you speak to the partners and loved ones of the survivors you find many didn't cope well. My original post on this subject actually said I wonder how much of this "support organisation" is needed and actually effective. I didn't say that no one should get support but it seems nowadays that after any major incident it is assumed that everybody needs counselling and support. I honestly don't believe this is so. A few will need a little help and a few will need a lot of help but the majority are quite robust enough to "get on with it". Assuming that everyone is unable to cope with things is an appalling waste of resources.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 14:46:13 GMT
We assume thy coped, when you speak to the partners and loved ones of the survivors you find many didn't cope well. My original post on this subject actually said I wonder how much of this "support organisation" is needed and actually effective. I didn't say that no one should get support but it seems nowadays that after any major incident it is assumed that everybody needs counselling and support. I honestly don't believe this is so. A few will need a little help and a few will need a lot of help but the majority are quite robust enough to "get on with it". Assuming that everyone is unable to cope with things is an appalling waste of resources. John, you did precede your reasonable comments with 'My parents generation had a world war to go through, my generation was also used to "just get on with it"' and made no comment about some people might need support. None of us should think a great deal before posting but we do have to expect a bit of 'comeback' over what we post - for what is worth your comment was just the sort of thing my parents say and a big reason why I didn't seek help for 8 years.
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Post by Andyberg on Aug 24, 2018 15:04:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 15:08:42 GMT
Jail is definitely cheaper than council flats so that's alright.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 24, 2018 15:28:57 GMT
Can't blame him for trying - all of Britain's politicians are trying it on too!
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Post by lollygagger on Aug 24, 2018 16:06:09 GMT
"The court heard Peters has been convicted of 90 offences, including 24 for fraud and 49 for theft."
Why do they keep letting these twats free to do it again? Not hard to see a pattern in their behaviour is it? Perhaps he only cheats and robs poor people so it doesn't matter... Grrr
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