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Post by Andyberg on Nov 10, 2017 23:21:57 GMT
Log/coal burners, what's your weekly fuel bill to keep warm and heat your water etc?
Be interesting see costs & how folks with a logburners/with backboiler fed central heating setup compares with a gas powered Aldi, a single stove immersion setup and Webasto/eberspacher setups compare?
My Bubble, feeding my central heating / hot water needs 24/7, uses roughly 6 litres diesel a day equating to about £20-£25 a week
my Webasto probably halves that, due to turning on/off as needed as I'm only onboard 12 hours or so
Whats your costs then to keep warm?
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Post by bettina on Nov 10, 2017 23:40:00 GMT
I've only had the central heating on for 2 x 1hr periods since 1st of Oct.
We've had the MF stove going 24/7 for the past 30 days or thereabouts, and are on our 4th bag of coal @10.50 per bag
We have also used 1 or 2 pieces of our free wood per day along with some of the free kindling that the kind gentleman delivered to our boat this past summer
Dave found a good supply of hard wood last winter/early spring that he has had on the roof to season.
Our hot water comes from running the engine whilst charging the batteries now that we are needing to run the engine again daily as the solar can't cope with our demands by itself during the darker months.
So to keep warm (around 20 degrees) it's currently costing us around £10.50 / per week, this will go up as colder weather sets in. At present I still have 3 of my hopper windows open...bathroom, 1 in the bedroom and 1 in the saloon.
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Post by tomsk on Nov 11, 2017 2:06:45 GMT
Provision for adequate/practical/economically sustainable space heating is as basic requirement, on par with having a weather-tight roof/superstructure and a workable fresh/foul water management systems established.
Heat is not cheap but given a heat source man enough, (plenty of calculators online if you know what your open fire/woodburner/'boiler' or 'compost' enabled gassifier can chuck out and how much of the planet it's expected to heat it is almost always more cost-effective to improve on any dwellings thermal insulation.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 11, 2017 5:31:54 GMT
Couple of bags of coal a week, so £18. Some wood but that's free. About £10's worth of diesel to heat the water via the engine but I need to run that anyway to charge the batteries.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 6:51:39 GMT
For my barge (57x12ft) I use a single multfuel cooking stove (quite small not a Rayburn). No back boiler as i prefer things uncomplicated. Electric skirting rads on thermostats as well in case they are needed (on mains) Heating cost varies depending on how much wood I have and outdoor temperature I Just got a load of scaffold boards for free so the fire is £0 during daytime for now. Smokeless coal at night. Brazier 40p/kilo from Wickes. Typo edit
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 6:53:54 GMT
Provision for adequate/practical/economically sustainable space heating is as basic requirement, on par with having a weather-tight roof/superstructure and a workable fresh/foul water management systems established. Heat is not cheap but given a heat source man enough, (plenty of calculators online if you know what your open fire/woodburner/'boiler' or 'compost' enabled gassifier can chuck out and how much of the planet it's expected to heat it is almost always more cost-effective to improve on any dwellings thermal insulation. Retrofitted insulation on a fully lined and wired canal boat would be a complete nightmare requiring removal of everything. Just not do-able. Not like loft insulation in a house.
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Post by patty on Nov 11, 2017 7:46:10 GMT
Heating Horror House is expensive ... Rayburn/woodburner and few back up electric heaters which daughter sometimes thinks to turn on pre my arrival home....Rayburn devours anthracite..think its all not quite right as I have to turn the central heating pump on and off manually...I know having talked it through have to sort sometime if stay there but this year I'm reducing work load...next year maybe when Ive had time to consider whats best.
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Post by quaysider on Nov 11, 2017 8:01:32 GMT
At present we're getting through 1.5 bags of ovoids a week @ £6.50 a bag... I run the webasto for about an hour (set on timer for 5.30am) each morning to give hot water for breakfast/washing etc and run the engine for 1 hour am - and maybe half an hour pm to top the water up....
Webasto "uses .60 litre per hour (I think from memory).... engine circa 1.00 litre per hour = £9.75 for coal, 14.7litres of diesel at 64.9 p per litre = £9.54
Total (ish) £19.29 for heat, water and battery charging - plus a little more for trips to the water point to top up twice, maybe 3 times a week.
keeping our boat hot is very easy... like most, it's keeping it cool that's difficult. Sitting here now, it's 25.7degrees in the lounge. The fire is ticking over from last night still and in a while , I'll riddle it and bung a few ovoids on.
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Post by kris on Nov 11, 2017 8:18:06 GMT
Provision for adequate/practical/economically sustainable space heating is as basic requirement, on par with having a weather-tight roof/superstructure and a workable fresh/foul water management systems established. Heat is not cheap but given a heat source man enough, (plenty of calculators online if you know what your open fire/woodburner/'boiler' or 'compost' enabled gassifier can chuck out and how much of the planet it's expected to heat it is almost always more cost-effective to improve on any dwellings thermal insulation. Retrofitted insulation on a fully lined and wired canal boat would be a complete nightmare requiring removal of everything. Just not do-able. Not like loft insulation in a house. i don't believe hes got any practical experience of living on a boat. He's taliking out of his arse again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 8:40:58 GMT
I've seen more than one canal boat which had insulation fitted to the outside of the cabin top with plywood over it. Bit weird. One of them caused horrible rusting to the steel !!
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Post by kris on Nov 11, 2017 9:06:18 GMT
I've seen more than one canal boat which had insulation fitted to the outside of the cabin top with plywood over it. Bit weird. One of them caused horrible rusting to the steel !! some people do get strange ideas. Look at that picture of the makeshift catamaran made of two boats and a caravan.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 11, 2017 10:20:06 GMT
The Sun is only 93 million miles away, and the Earth below the crust is a seething cauldron of magma.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 10:24:46 GMT
The Sun is only 93 million miles away, and the Earth below the crust is a seething cauldron of magma. Humans have brains which are too large
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Post by peterboat on Nov 11, 2017 11:28:04 GMT
Rayburn is at the moment eating 50 kilos of Anthracite a week so its £13 I am also using some free wood. If very cold it will be 75 kilos a week its life, I also do all my cooking on the Rayburn so it reduces costs that way
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 14:30:23 GMT
Roughly 50 quid a week for coal, diesel and wood. The fire is a 9kw aarrow, and takes almost half a bag of coal to fill up.
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