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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 9:40:42 GMT
Dr Bob is strange,tearing into you one moment and then giving you greenies a couple of posts on Phil He knows a lot about plastics i'm not totally convinced about that, nothing more than a gut feeling TBH, most of it appears to be baffling by science - aka bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 9:45:51 GMT
There does seem to be a greater need to 'gather around an opinion' and then guard it.
Added to that there are a couple (like Welsh Graham for example) who will suddenly appear in any thread to criticise and admonish anyone daring to disagree with the 'group think'.
Lots of jolly nice people there but .......
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jan 24, 2018 10:18:43 GMT
Dr Bob, of CWDF infamy, is an opinionated prick who needs shutting-up. Besides whatever else he spouts drivel about, he's an enthusiastic dispenser of duff (navigational) advice to the nervous and/or inexperienced, albeit one whose prophesies of doom are far more likely to result in the recipients not being exposed to unacceptably hazardous conditions or avoidable risks, but instead becoming even more nervous than they were before seeking advice, and never gaining any of the experience and confidence they're lacking in to begin with. About a fortnight before Christmas there was a couple wanting to get their boat from Gloucester to Ripon, or as near as time and circumstances allowed, as a matter of some urgency and necessity. Posting under the name 'the Duker', I suggested the easiest and quickest route would be up the river to Worcester, then via Brum and the Bottom Road to Fazeley, and then onto the Trent at Shardlow (Derwent Mouth). Conditions on the Severn were alright for the short run up to Worcester, provided they got going quickly, before all the snow that had fallen in the Severn's catchment area melted. They would then have had 4 to 5 days of stoppage free canal work over the Christmas period to get them on to the Trent, where they would have to be very unlucky to be troubled by any after effects of the weather, whatever it did, at least as far as Keadby. This suggestion was rubbished and dismissed, variously as bad advice and putting people at risk, by an alliance of utter pillocks with Dr Bob at the fore, on the grounds that firstly the Severn would rise when all Graham Rabies' snow (he was one of the 'Brains Trust' dishing out this crap) thawed and found it's way into the river, and the astounding revelation that there was a possibility of some lengths of iced-up canal between Worcester and Shardlow in the middle of the Winter. As far as I'm aware the couple, and their boat, are still down in Gloucester. There's a stoppage lasting through to late March to build a cycle path through Edgbaston Tunnel, so they no longer have that most direct, easiest route open to them, and of course C&RT's Winter stoppage program will now be closing other routes off as well. So, well done Dr Bob, and the rest of the dick-heads who succeeded in frightening these people out of what would, in fact, have been about as easy and unproblematic boat relocation as anyone could reasonably expect to have to undertake at this time of year. I remember the thread they are a strange bunch over there at times and once the "experts" have pronounced their opinion thats it they wont reply to anything the "expert" stated so funny Something that is consistent about the advice these twerps dish out is the fact that it's ALWAYS negative stuff. Although they would never admit it, they do in truth recognize their own shortcomings very clearly, and as a result their advice invariably amounts to nothing other than '' don't - can't - won't '' stuff. None of them know enough, or have enough confidence in what they claim to know, to actually post any specific, positive advice on pilotage, passage making and working/timing tides, etc. They all work on the modern management principle that you cover all eventualities, and your own arse, by simply saying "no'' to everything, . . . in truth they have nothing whatsoever useful to to say, but feel compelled to say it, nonetheless.
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Post by peterboat on Jan 24, 2018 10:33:15 GMT
He knows a lot about plastics i'm not totally convinced about that, nothing more than a gut feeling TBH, most of it appears to be baffling by science - aka bullshit. He said some stuff about plastics, so I checked it out with a friend in Scotland who is big in plastics, he confirmed him to be right on the button, so maybe he does know his stuff on them
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 10:39:16 GMT
The boiler man and his pearls of wisdom on that BMC thread are priceless.
Quite.
The BMC is not designed for raw water cooling. The constant flow of freshly-oxygenated water corrodes steel, and the thin steel core plugs will rust through.
I get what you're saying, but a rusted though core plug is capable of sinking the boat and this is one reason SOME people prefer indirect cooling on a BMC. You may be a dab hand at replacing them but a lot of boaters these days would not know how or be the slightest it interested in learning. AND want to rest easy there is no risk of sinking from one rusting through.
Core plugs fail in engines filled with antifreeze too.
Sink a boat? He's obviously not familiar with a Jabsco 4900 raw water pump then, the gland is a graphite bush that is nipped up with a gland nut. Set correctly it should drip once every couple of seconds. No drips means it's Too tight and the shaft will run hot and wear. Same goes for a packing stern gland, particularly the type fitted to cruisers. Periodically the bilge pump is flicked on to send it back overboard. Makes you wonder how Fairlight has stayed afloat for 50 years. The Stuart Turner reciprocating pump was often a leaky little so and so too.
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Post by phil70 on Jan 24, 2018 11:10:56 GMT
Had a dayboat with a 2 pot Stuart Turner and remember the pump very well. This boat based on a 21ft Seamaster hull drove me mad because the exhaust exited through the transom but the raw water exited half way along the hull and people were always yelling at me that my weed filter must be blocked or the pump had failed because no water came out of the exhaust Phil
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Post by JohnV on Jan 24, 2018 12:51:27 GMT
The boiler man and his pearls of wisdom on that BMC thread are priceless. Quite. The BMC is not designed for raw water cooling. The constant flow of freshly-oxygenated water corrodes steel, and the thin steel core plugs will rust through. trouble is that nowadays you can't just extract a penny from your pocket, give it some expert attention with a ballpene hammer and ..... voila !!! ................. a rustproof core plug for early Ford engines (should add that it works for BMC's as well but I only have had to do it on the little Ford based engines)
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jan 24, 2018 12:56:13 GMT
I don't know if this member of Dr Bob's chorus line of ''can'ts'' is having some twinges of conscience, or trying to make amends for frightening that couple in Gloucester out of moving their boat to Ripon over Christmas and New Year, but he's just posted this, without commenting or adding anything, on another CWDF thread about the Trent :
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On 12/16/2017 at 08:52, TheDuker said:
If you would prefer to have a pilot aboard try someone called Tony Dunkley to see if he's available to help you. He's been boating on the Trent professionally on commercial barges and tugs, with some pleasure craft time as well, for nearly 60 years, so he's beginning to get to know the river quite well by now. You can contact him on 07553 294325 , or e-mail at > tony@canalrivertransport.com <
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Post by phil70 on Jan 24, 2018 12:58:04 GMT
Pre-decimalisation, Sigh, happy days Phil
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Post by JohnV on Jan 24, 2018 12:59:00 GMT
I don't know if this member of Dr Bob's chorus line of ''can'ts'' is having some twinges of conscience, or trying to make amends for frightening that couple in Gloucester out of moving their boat to Ripon over Christmas and New Year, but he's just posted this, without commenting or adding anything, on another CWDF thread about the Trent : rusty69
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On 12/16/2017 at 08:52, TheDuker said:
If you would prefer to have a pilot aboard try someone called Tony Dunkley to see if he's available to help you. He's been boating on the Trent professionally on commercial barges and tugs, with some pleasure craft time as well, for nearly 60 years, so he's beginning to get to know the river quite well by now. You can contact him on 07553 294325 , or e-mail at > tony@canalrivertransport.com <
Are you feeling better now Tony ? health wise I mean !!!
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jan 24, 2018 13:08:53 GMT
The boiler man and his pearls of wisdom on that BMC thread are priceless. Quite. The BMC is not designed for raw water cooling. The constant flow of freshly-oxygenated water corrodes steel, and the thin steel core plugs will rust through. trouble is that nowadays you can't just extract a penny from your pocket, give it some expert attention with a ballpene hammer and ..... voila !!! ................. a rustproof core plug for early Ford engines (should add that it works for BMC's as well but I only have had to do it on the little Ford based engines) Not only longer lasting than the 'pukka' ones from Ford or BMC , . . . but much cheaper too. When was it ever possible to buy a 'genuine' core plug from a manufacturer for one old penny !
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Post by cygnus on Jan 24, 2018 13:13:57 GMT
I have just looked at my post numbers. Don't laugh, I have 85 on here, and 127 on CWDF. I feel so inadequate after seeing that I need 30,000 to be a superstar font of all knowledge. 😁
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jan 24, 2018 13:22:21 GMT
I don't know if this member of Dr Bob's chorus line of ''can'ts'' is having some twinges of conscience, or trying to make amends for frightening that couple in Gloucester out of moving their boat to Ripon over Christmas and New Year, but he's just posted this, without commenting or adding anything, on another CWDF thread about the Trent : rusty69
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On 12/16/2017 at 08:52, TheDuker said:
If you would prefer to have a pilot aboard try someone called Tony Dunkley to see if he's available to help you. He's been boating on the Trent professionally on commercial barges and tugs, with some pleasure craft time as well, for nearly 60 years, so he's beginning to get to know the river quite well by now. You can contact him on 07553 294325 , or e-mail at > tony@canalrivertransport.com <
Are you feeling better now Tony ? health wise I mean !!! Yes, fine thanks, John. Can't seem to get rid of this last bit of infection in my right foot, though. At present it's alternating from the base of my 2nd and 3rd toes to the inside of my heel, . . . a wet, sore looking patch of red, around about an inch across and very tender/painfull to touch. I was going to say it's a pain in the arse, . . but that's at the other end of my leg !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 13:23:39 GMT
You can always resort to wild ramblings. Works for foxy Rog ETA Tony posted as I wrote. This refers to the post above his of course
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 13:25:33 GMT
I have just looked at my post numbers. Don't laugh, I have 85 on here, and 127 on CWDF. I feel so inadequate after seeing that I need 30,000 to be a superstar font of all knowledge. 😁 Quality not quantity. MTB, Dr Bob, Smelly et al ably demonstrate that sage piece of advice.
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