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Post by flatdog on Feb 1, 2018 20:07:46 GMT
Obvious question would be…..
What needs doing?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 20:11:50 GMT
And very good looking and polite too There are people mentioned on various face book sites (london boaters; narrow boat owners ; narrow boat users) and I suppose word spreads by that method these days. I've also passed many boats with signs up offering services from carpentry, electics to full boat safety work. Are you thinking of a new job, maybe self employed Wayne? Rog
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Post by patty on Feb 2, 2018 1:25:09 GMT
Be OK if people paid up ....my brother went self employed as a car mechanic years ago but people didn't pay and he got swamped in debt...being self employed is OK if u are tough enough to shake money from the unwilling payers..
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Post by faffer on Feb 2, 2018 3:31:37 GMT
And very good looking and polite too There are people mentioned on various face book sites (london boaters; narrow boat owners ; narrow boat users) and I suppose word spreads by that method these days. I've also passed many boats with signs up offering services from carpentry, electics to full boat safety work. Are you thinking of a new job, maybe self employed Wayne? Rog Hi Rog, i am thinking on it, a lot of folk have seen my project FAFFER and been impressed with it and some body mentioned it and that got me thinking and then i have been offered a few jobs in the last week on cruisers type not NB, and then thought why not full time if i can get it to work. These jobs are down South so would be away for a few days at a time for them but i can stay on the boats for accommodation which is pretty cool. I am just thinking on it now a slots to work out, insurance for one and trying to deal with the marina/yard owners as they can be hard work i believe with outside contractors. Dont want to upset to many folk. I would have to do weekends only for the start as not rich enough to jack in the full time Payee job. Another idea that was put my way was to buy and repair/sell boats. I know where to get boats cheap as most of us just knowing good sellers and profit from certain types. Bit like when i did cars and trailers. just knowing what to buy and at what price.
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Post by faffer on Feb 2, 2018 3:32:54 GMT
Be OK if people paid up ....my brother went self employed as a car mechanic years ago but people didn't pay and he got swamped in debt...being self employed is OK if u are tough enough to shake money from the unwilling payers.. Good point Patty.
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Post by patty on Feb 2, 2018 5:41:09 GMT
And very good looking and polite too There are people mentioned on various face book sites (london boaters; narrow boat owners ; narrow boat users) and I suppose word spreads by that method these days. I've also passed many boats with signs up offering services from carpentry, electics to full boat safety work. Are you thinking of a new job, maybe self employed Wayne? Rog Hi Rog, i am thinking on it, a lot of folk have seen my project FAFFER and been impressed with it and some body mentioned it and that got me thinking and then i have been offered a few jobs in the last week on cruisers type not NB, and then thought why not full time if i can get it to work. These jobs are down South so would be away for a few days at a time for them but i can stay on the boats for accommodation which is pretty cool. I am just thinking on it now a slots to work out, insurance for one and trying to deal with the marina/yard owners as they can be hard work i believe with outside contractors. Dont want to upset to many folk. I would have to do weekends only for the start as not rich enough to jack in the full time Payee job. Another idea that was put my way was to buy and repair/sell boats. I know where to get boats cheap as most of us just knowing good sellers and profit from certain types. Bit like when i did cars and trailers. just knowing what to buy and at what price. You could always give it a go but be very careful ref payment...insist on money as job done...if u make it part of the terms when u quote... when this house renovated I always paid the boys immediately as they were all self employed....ok so a few of them perhaps should have worked in another career but they did their best and I'm no perfectionist9though am now having to have some bits re done)....thats the other thing is dealing with folk whose perceptions of work done may not always match yours.....where prising money from people comes into play u can see the not nice side of those who don't wanna part with ££'s Both Marinas I used didn't like outside contractors and one would charge if they came on site..the other refused their admission.....way to beat this is having the boat moved to towpath if poss and work there which is what i did...well occasionally my friend would just come in and we said nuffin...
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Post by bodger on Feb 2, 2018 9:12:31 GMT
IMHO anyone who lives on a boat or regularly goes boating should be able to do all the simple jobs that crop up on a daily or weekly basis, and the same for householders. My son-in-law was totally incapable of doing even the simplest DIY and my daughter discouraged him from trying. Now 5 years down the line he has a reasonable toolbox and does the simple stuff himself.
It really is easier to do it yourself than spend time finding a 'little man' (SWMBO's words), then waiting for him to turn up, waiting for him to return with the materials, keeping out of his way while he gets on with the job, arguing with him when he does a jobsworth and says all the gas piping needs to be replaced or that the wood stove installation doesn't meet regulations so it needs to be changed, ..... I could go on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 12:51:04 GMT
I think Wayne's skill, as evidenced by the rebuild/fit out of Faffer, goes way beyond simple maintenance jobs.
There will always be need for skilled craftsmen by the more inept of us.
Rog
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Post by cygnus on Feb 2, 2018 14:04:39 GMT
Go for it faffer, once you've done a few jobs and they're ok, you'll never look back. Word soon gets round, in fact you usually get approached to do more work while your doing a job. I've just retired after doing it for years. It helps if your in a big boating area of course. Pricing jobs is one of the hardest skills, too cheap and you'll be run off your feet. Some Marina's might want a payment, but sort that out with your customer. Some Marina's won't let you in there yard but that never happened to me. I was working for myself in the 90's, and was on a job when I was approached by Jonathan Wilson to work for him in Thorne, I was there for 10 years. Then went back working for myself. I'm still turning work down now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 14:43:44 GMT
I'd been thinking of the same thing down in London. I know my way around most boat systems and can sort out problems and best of all if I get into trouble I have a consultant called "gazza".
I've always done all work on my boats since I started living on boats in 1995 (other then the BS inspection thing) and have helped people out but never charged money for it due to being incredibly wealthy when i was younger.
I would prefer to charge for work now as I am no longer young free single and rich sadly .
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Post by thebfg on Feb 2, 2018 15:03:36 GMT
If you want to do up boats, there maybe a boater around here who could supply cheap ones. Though you will have to respray and rename them.
Serioulsy though with the care and effort and loveelly finish you put into it would it actually be that profitable.
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Post by kris on Feb 2, 2018 15:07:47 GMT
I'd been thinking of the same thing down in London. I know my way around most boat systems and can sort out problems and best of all if I get into trouble I have a consultant called "gazza". I've always done all work on my boats since I started living on boats in 1995 (other then the BS inspection thing) and have helped people out but never charged money for it due to being incredibly wealthy when i was younger. I would prefer to charge for work now as I am no longer young free single and rich sadly . I would have thought buying cheap boats and taking them to London to sell i would have thought is good for you. Being on the spot as it where. But then I don't know if this is over already, as london is full.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 15:10:13 GMT
Not interested in that or letting boats as it doesn't fit my attitude.and yes London is a bit full but still some capacity for what you are referring to.
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Post by kris on Feb 2, 2018 15:14:59 GMT
Not interested in that or letting boats as it doesn't fit my attitude.and yes London is a bit full but still some capacity for what you are referring to. I think letting boats is dodgy, but buying and selling them. What's wrong with that?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 15:46:10 GMT
Not interested in that or letting boats as it doesn't fit my attitude.and yes London is a bit full but still some capacity for what you are referring to. I think letting boats is dodgy, but buying and selling them. What's wrong with that? Buying and selling boats is OK but specifically aiming to buy boats elsewhere and sell them in London seems to me to be feeding a problem which is liable to lead to negative outcomes. Thats just my view on it. Other views are available .
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