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Post by robmcd on Feb 12, 2018 11:42:01 GMT
Hull condition is everything, being able to get at and asses the bits that will make it sink are more important than anything, the rest is just nuts and bolts and wood butchery. The expensive and difficult bit is keeping the canal outside where it belongs, teabag boats will rip through money like it's going out of fashion. As Martin points out for the rest of it you'd have to consider it a secondhand sailaway, whether the floor is any good can't be ascertained from the pictures. There doesn't appear to be a great deal worth saving inside. If you don't mind plenty of hard work and it isn't as rotten as a pear it's probably no better or worse than other stuff available at that end of the market. I though that it would be a totall refit inside, but for the right money might be worth it, my main concerns are ownership-hull-engine and gear box, got to see this one for myself though and will try and get some pics.
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Post by robmcd on Feb 12, 2018 11:46:52 GMT
I think it all depends on the condition of the hull. The rest is based on how much work you are prepared to take on. that's the nub everything hinges on the thickness and any deep pitting ........ trouble is it's a gamble in any direction, you can't be sure of the hull while it is in the water, you can only make an informed guess. If you have it lifted/docked for a full inspection then if it's grim you lose the cost of that. The engine you can listen to and get an idea of it's condition. What is your aversion to risk? ...... if you can get it for close to that price and have financial back up to allow for some re-plating/over plating it could be a very good buy. As a boat, it has enough sheer both on the bow and the rear cabin to be quite a pleasing shape. Internally .... it just depends how good/able to learn you are with D.I.Y. I quite like it and if I was looking for another project (heaven forbid) I would be having a serious look bloody hell, I must learn to type faster ...... I was overtaken by Gazza !!!I like the look of the boat (style and size) who ever owns it is has not looked after it and I am guessing that because of its location he works right next to the mooring and is using it as a crash pad. If I can skip the overplating road and buy a more expensive boat that don't require overplating then I will do that, as for the inside I was planning on a new fit out anyway reguardless of what I purchased as I am planning on using this as a home and wanted it my way and not the last 4 owners way..
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Post by kris on Feb 12, 2018 11:48:42 GMT
So your quite handy then and happy with something that needs work?
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Post by robmcd on Feb 12, 2018 11:50:07 GMT
OK - why doesn't this bloke have any feedback on Ebay? 9 items sold, yet no-one has said a sausage. There aren't enough photos to judge. It's a metal, uncared-for, box sitting in water. £5,500 - and another £25,000 to make it nice? However... I would certainly go and have a look. As people say, if the hull and basic structure is OK, then you may have got yourself a bargain, but I'd say it needs hundreds of hours to clean it up - unless you are another scruffy git. There is no way I could live in this as it sits, the owner is obveously on the riffy side and a de-contamination is well needed hear. I will have a look and get some pics if the owner lets me, I want to go through all the paperwork aswell, not going for something without checking as best as I am able thats for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 11:54:50 GMT
I suppose its how the pics are taken but on some it looks to be green and red and the others white n black..is it the same boat on them all? I'd be careful ref ownership...looks right mess inside..unloved and unused which raises question of engine maintenance and hull... Could be good buy could be expensive mistake The ad. states it's different colour schemes on each side because it was painted one side and he didn't finish the job. Either that or the owner wanted to try shuffling up and down a short section and was trying to dupe CRT enforcement staff. (joke)
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Post by robmcd on Feb 12, 2018 11:55:08 GMT
So your quite handy then and happy with something that needs work? I don't mind working and was going to take the boat I purchase out of the water and refit for a few months anyway, but the less work the better but that = more money. This is the worst boat I have looked at so far and only put some interest into it as I liked the look/style of the boat, but you have to see past the crap inside and out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 11:58:34 GMT
OK - why doesn't this bloke have any feedback on Ebay? 9 items sold, yet no-one has said a sausage. They could be fake transactions but also they could just be lazy buyers. I get pissed off with people who buy perfectly good stuff from me that is delivered promptly and is exactly or better than described and then they don't bother leaving +ve feed back, or indeed any feedback at all. I've noticed it's an increasing trend over the last year or so. Or more likely is his feedback is older than 12 months. Ed just checked and it is.
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Post by robmcd on Feb 12, 2018 12:09:48 GMT
OK - why doesn't this bloke have any feedback on Ebay? 9 items sold, yet no-one has said a sausage. They could be fake transactions but also they could just be lazy buyers. I get pissed off with people who buy perfectly good stuff from me that is delivered promptly and is exactly or better than described and then they don't bother leaving +ve feed back, or indeed any feedback at all. I've noticed it's an increasing trend over the last year or so. Or more likely is his feedback is older than 12 months. Ed just checked and it is. All 9 feedback are there click on feedback as a buyer and there all there, last trasaction was over a year ago.
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Post by kris on Feb 12, 2018 12:12:46 GMT
So your quite handy then and happy with something that needs work? I don't mind working and was going to take the boat I purchase out of the water and refit for a few months anyway, but the less work the better but that = more money. This is the worst boat I have looked at so far and only put some interest into it as I liked the look/style of the boat, but you have to see past the crap inside and out. its just I posted links to some project boats before and didn't get any response so presumed you weren't interested in "projects" which for someone with your budget I would have thought a mistake. You've got more chance of getting a really good boat by buying something cheap and doing it up. But as you say hopefully with not too much to do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 12:19:54 GMT
They could be fake transactions but also they could just be lazy buyers. I get pissed off with people who buy perfectly good stuff from me that is delivered promptly and is exactly or better than described and then they don't bother leaving +ve feed back, or indeed any feedback at all. I've noticed it's an increasing trend over the last year or so. Or more likely is his feedback is older than 12 months. Ed just checked and it is. All 9 feedback are there click on feedback as a buyer and there all there, last trasaction was over a year ago. Correct
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Post by peterboat on Feb 12, 2018 13:24:41 GMT
The problem with ebay is that in the final few minutes his mates might bid the boat up,this happened yesterday my mate was bidding on an x type and didnt get it, later he was offered a second chance offer on it [given that he was about five behind that gives you a clue] anyway he made a very rude offer and hasnt heard back!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 13:30:23 GMT
OK - why doesn't this bloke have any feedback on Ebay? 9 items sold, yet no-one has said a sausage. They could be fake transactions but also they could just be lazy buyers. I get pissed off with people who buy perfectly good stuff from me that is delivered promptly and is exactly or better than described and then they don't bother leaving +ve feed back, or indeed any feedback at all. I've noticed it's an increasing trend over the last year or so. Or more likely is his feedback is older than 12 months. Ed just checked and it is. +ve ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 13:47:43 GMT
They could be fake transactions but also they could just be lazy buyers. I get pissed off with people who buy perfectly good stuff from me that is delivered promptly and is exactly or better than described and then they don't bother leaving +ve feed back, or indeed any feedback at all. I've noticed it's an increasing trend over the last year or so. Or more likely is his feedback is older than 12 months. Ed just checked and it is. +ve ? Opposite to -ve. Normally used in maths or physics. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%2Bve
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 13:54:36 GMT
ahhhh could have just said positive.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 13:56:17 GMT
ahhhh could have just said positive. That's a bit of a negative view. Although probably better than alternating between the two
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