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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 10:17:24 GMT
The NBTA is asking its members if they agree with these changes and what action should be taken.
Have they asked you yet?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 10:32:28 GMT
The NBTA is asking its members if they agree with these changes and what action should be taken. Have they asked you yet? What NBTA should be doing is ask CRT why they wasted so much of our money on something they intended to do anyway! The whole license review thing was an attempt to make it look like they were interested in what boaters wanted and get a tick in the box. The added bonus was dividing the boating community. If CRT management were more accountable to the general public on a day to day basis we would have had none of this.
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Post by kris on Mar 13, 2018 10:32:38 GMT
The NBTA is asking its members if they agree with these changes and what action should be taken. Have they asked you yet? Yes
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Post by kris on Mar 13, 2018 10:35:26 GMT
The NBTA is asking its members if they agree with these changes and what action should be taken. Have they asked you yet? What NBTA should be doing is ask CRT why they wasted so much of our money on something they intended to do anyway! The whole license review thing was an attempt to make it look like they were interested in what boaters wanted and get a tick in the box. The added bonus was dividing the boating community. If CRT management were more accountable to the general public on a day to day basis we would have had none of this. More accountability is definately the answer, as it stands they are not accountable to anyone for their actions. As for this liscence review, as I've said before even if you hate wide boats, you must have concerns over the way it was conducted?
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 13, 2018 11:56:33 GMT
NBTA could jump onto the tracks at Manchester Piccadilly station? Seems to get some causes recognised.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 12:52:30 GMT
No kris. I am not paid by CRT. I pay them a lot personally as I have a fleet of boats but they never pay me anything.
I reserve the right to occasionally make comments about subjects in order to widen the discussion.
I agree with foxy about the "right to buy" thing. That was just so Thatcher (the puppet at the head of government at the time) got more votes. People feel happy if they own a house (I believe this is true but having never owned one I don't know).
I would adopt the opposite policy. If you have a right to a council house this is because you can not afford housing in the open market so you get state assistance. Fair enough there is a welfare state in existence to keep people under control. So then you are offered the house to buy and suddenly you find a large amount of money down the back of the sofa. At this stage my answer would be "OK so you have money - now fuck off out of the state housing system you parasite".
Loads and loads of council flats are simply bought up then leased back to the council. Scam heaven. Should never have been done. People will forever blame Thatcher because its easy but she was just a puppet.
Teresa May is another one and look - the country is being fucked. Again. Strange coincidence. Not.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 13:06:07 GMT
And people say "boats are homes" and the excessive numbers of boats in some areas is a symptom of the "housing crisis" but I wonder. If everyone was suddenly evicted from canals due to privatisation would all these boat dwellers be homeless? Or do we actually have a large group of people who own property anyway but rent it out and live on a boat cheaply while it is an available option in the knowledge they can just slip quietly back home if things go wrong.
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Post by kris on Mar 13, 2018 13:24:47 GMT
In reply to magnetman I was half joking about you getting paid by Crt. It was a failed attempt at humour. In all fairness I dnt think we can blame mrs thatcher, for what cart are doing to the waterways now. But I do understand the situation in London is directly related to the housing shortage. I presume there are lots of people on boats that own property as well. While this provides some insulation from homelessness if it becomes impossible to live on the water, it doesn't stop there boats droping in value when living on a boat isn't as appealing .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 13:33:40 GMT
And people say "boats are homes" and the excessive numbers of boats in some areas is a symptom of the "housing crisis" but I wonder. If everyone was suddenly evicted from canals due to privatisation would all these boat dwellers be homeless? Or do we actually have a large group of people who own property anyway but rent it out and live on a boat cheaply while it is an available option in the knowledge they can just slip quietly back home if things go wrong. I doubt you’ll ever find out how many boaters fit into your category. For one, you’d need to get out there in the real world and talk to everyone. For another, I’ve found that those who don’t have a fallback plan don’t tend to do internet forums. One argument which may support what I think you are suggesting is that living on a boat isn’t really any cheaper than living in a typical house. The main difference is the initial cost. Then again, how much would it cost in tax payers money to house these people? I saw a lot of comments driven by jealously on CWF. The daft thing is that most of those making these comments wouldn’t actually have the bottle to do it in reality, so they justify that by putting those who do live in a boat down.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 13:52:15 GMT
And people say "boats are homes" and the excessive numbers of boats in some areas is a symptom of the "housing crisis" but I wonder. If everyone was suddenly evicted from canals due to privatisation would all these boat dwellers be homeless? Or do we actually have a large group of people who own property anyway but rent it out and live on a boat cheaply while it is an available option in the knowledge they can just slip quietly back home if things go wrong. I doubt you’ll ever find out how many boaters fit into your category. For one, you’d need to get out there in the real world and talk to everyone. For another, I’ve found that those who don’t have a fallback plan don’t tend to do internet forums. One argument which may support what I think you are suggesting is that living on a boat isn’t really any cheaper than living in a typical house. The main difference is the initial cost. Then again, how much would it cost in tax payers money to house these people? I saw a lot of comments driven by jealously on CWF. The daft thing is that most of those making these comments wouldn’t actually have the bottle to do it in reality, so they justify that by putting those who do live in a boat down. I think you missed my point but never mind. Not sure what you meant by "your category" but in case you were referring to me no I don't have any housing option other than the boats.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 14:04:52 GMT
I doubt you’ll ever find out how many boaters fit into your category. For one, you’d need to get out there in the real world and talk to everyone. For another, I’ve found that those who don’t have a fallback plan don’t tend to do internet forums. One argument which may support what I think you are suggesting is that living on a boat isn’t really any cheaper than living in a typical house. The main difference is the initial cost. Then again, how much would it cost in tax payers money to house these people? I saw a lot of comments driven by jealously on CWF. The daft thing is that most of those making these comments wouldn’t actually have the bottle to do it in reality, so they justify that by putting those who do live in a boat down. I think you missed my point but never mind. Not sure what you meant by "your category" but in case you were referring to me no I don't have any housing option other than the boats. But you do own a “fleet of boats” ;-) By category I meant your query about the ‘number of liveaboards who have a fallback plan’ .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 14:16:32 GMT
I think you missed my point but never mind. Not sure what you meant by "your category" but in case you were referring to me no I don't have any housing option other than the boats. But you do own a “fleet of boats” ;-) By category I meant your query about the ‘number of liveaboards who have a fallback plan’ . I was a bit more specific than that if you read what I wrote. I was referring to people who have chosen to rent the house out and live on a boat temporarily. This is fair enough and a sensible approach but it does alter priorities somewhat and long term objectives if you understand what I am getting at.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 13, 2018 15:25:23 GMT
This is how the canals should be, Boaters in old clothes and afternoon tea, Neat and tidy and no horrid pong, That's because it's only half-a-mile long!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 15:46:37 GMT
This is how the canals should be, Boaters in old clothes and afternoon tea, Neat and tidy and no horrid pong, That's because it's only half-a-mile long! Bekonscot!
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 13, 2018 15:59:23 GMT
Yes. Many years ago I went there with my son when he was about 5 years old. We found a frog and put it on one of the trains, in an open goods wagon. We had great fun running around trying to find the train and spot the frog!
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