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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 20:28:42 GMT
Apparently there are more than 35,000 boats on CRT waterways. So let's assume 35,000 for thw sake of argument.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how much each boat owner would have to pay in order to maintain a 2000 mile canal network without any external funding?
It might make an interesting calculation as that would be the logical license or toll fee if the network was run by private contractors. Obviously they would want their profit as well.
I've no idea but something tells me it would be rather more than £1,000 a year each. £35m to operate and maintain the whole system seems a bit low to me.
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Post by kris on Mar 23, 2018 20:31:25 GMT
Twat.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 23, 2018 20:40:27 GMT
I read somewhere that boat licences cover £13 of every £100 it costs to operate the canal network. If that is correct then the licence would need to cost 7-8 times as much for the network to be entirely funded by boaters. Of course, if it did, virtually nobody would do it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 20:43:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 20:48:52 GMT
I read somewhere that boat licences cover £13 of every £100 it costs to operate the canal network. If that is correct then the licence would need to cost 7-8 times as much for the network to be entirely funded by boaters. Of course, if it did, virtually nobody would do it. I hope when CRT reach out to the non boating public they don't tell people that !
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 23, 2018 20:57:38 GMT
I read somewhere that boat licences cover £13 of every £100 it costs to operate the canal network. If that is correct then the licence would need to cost 7-8 times as much for the network to be entirely funded by boaters. Of course, if it did, virtually nobody would do it. I hope when CRT reach out to the non boating public they don't tell people that ! There are invisible revenues created by the canals though- the business rates and VAT generated by hire boast companies, waterfront bars and restaurants, the PAYE paid by their staff etc.
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Post by thebfg on Mar 23, 2018 20:58:55 GMT
And a massive income from utility companies
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 23, 2018 21:13:18 GMT
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how much each boat owner would have to pay in order to maintain a 2000 mile canal network without any external funding? The answer to this question would be considerably more meaningful with the addition of the words ~ "and without the navigation authority squandering such vast quantities of cash on useless, unnecessary management positions, irrelevant gimmicks and expensive publicity stunts".
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Post by kris on Mar 23, 2018 21:16:01 GMT
Plus the income from the commercial rents, oh and don't forget the 700 million investment portfolio. Also the money from moorings and of course BWML. Cut out the levels of un-needed managment and the squandering of cash and I think that should be enough to keep a network going.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 21:30:55 GMT
Plus the income from the commercial rents, oh and don't forget the 700 million investment portfolio. Also the money from moorings and of course BWML. Cut out the levels of un-needed managment and the squandering of cash and I think that should be enough to keep a network going. Twat.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 21:41:55 GMT
I read somewhere that boat licences cover £13 of every £100 it costs to operate the canal network. If that is correct then the licence would need to cost 7-8 times as much for the network to be entirely funded by boaters. Of course, if it did, virtually nobody would do it. Take away some of the unnecessary offices and staff that have no relation to the Canal itself, along with the consultancies gimmicks and stunts, and that would remove a sizeable chunk of costs. Also, bear in mind that anything on the canals or related directly to them that brings in cash should be added to the licence income when discussing this. Magnet man is being a little naive and at times likes to play headfuck games. There are many ways to raise funding for a small charity solely engaged in managing the canals. CRT are simply concentrating on their property portfolio, because they do not have the ability to find or engage in other activities. In my mind, CRT should be abolished, and replaced by two seperate entities.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 21:49:23 GMT
Well the Scottish model seems to be going well, maybe CRT can adopt that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 21:52:08 GMT
I read somewhere that boat licences cover £13 of every £100 it costs to operate the canal network. If that is correct then the licence would need to cost 7-8 times as much for the network to be entirely funded by boaters. Of course, if it did, virtually nobody would do it. Take away some of the unnecessary offices and staff that have no relation to the Canal itself, along with the consultancies gimmicks and stunts, and that would remove a sizeable chunk of costs. Also, bear in mind that anything on the canals or related directly to them that brings in cash should be added to the licence income when discussing this. Magnet man is being a little naive and at times likes to play headfuck games. There are many ways to raise funding for a small charity solely engaged in managing the canals. CRT are simply concentrating on their property portfolio, because they do not have the ability to find or engage in other activities. In my mind, CRT should be abolished, and replaced by two seperate entities. I like to get discussion going and yes I appear naive too. What two separate entities would you like to see ?
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Post by kris on Mar 23, 2018 22:02:22 GMT
Take away some of the unnecessary offices and staff that have no relation to the Canal itself, along with the consultancies gimmicks and stunts, and that would remove a sizeable chunk of costs. Also, bear in mind that anything on the canals or related directly to them that brings in cash should be added to the licence income when discussing this. Magnet man is being a little naive and at times likes to play headfuck games. There are many ways to raise funding for a small charity solely engaged in managing the canals. CRT are simply concentrating on their property portfolio, because they do not have the ability to find or engage in other activities. In my mind, CRT should be abolished, and replaced by two seperate entities. I like to get discussion going and yes I appear naive too. What two separate entities would you like to see ? did beer o'clock come early to your boat today?
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Post by brummieboy on Mar 23, 2018 22:37:29 GMT
Well the Scottish model seems to be going well, maybe CRT can adopt that. Does that mean we close down the good points to navigation? (Falkirk Wheel)
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