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Post by kris on Mar 28, 2018 16:28:23 GMT
Are there any more details of this case on the Internet anywhere?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 16:46:27 GMT
Andrew do you have a condition that means you don't have any empathy? Yes
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Post by kris on Mar 28, 2018 16:47:53 GMT
Andrew do you have a condition that means you don't have any empathy? Yes I'm not being judgemental, but I thought so.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 28, 2018 16:48:25 GMT
Something which is invariably overlooked in circumstances such as this, is that whether C&RT's Section 8 powers are exercised pursuant to, or absent, a Court Order [in the form of an Injunction and Declaration] , they in truth have no authority to evict anyone from the boat they either own or are living on. The powers conferred under S.8 of the 1983 BW Act are limited to only the removal from C&RT's waterways of the offending vessel, although C&RT, as did BWB before them, unilaterally, unlawfully, and invariably extend and expand those powers to suit themselves. It's high time they were effectively challenged when next attempting to apply this procedure. What happened with your hassle with CRT in the end? Last time I saw anything of it they were making right fools of themselves. Hello Sabcat - long time no see , or hear from ! Sorry to hear you're getting rid of your boat, and of the circumstances which brought about that decision. All the very best to you, your family and your mother. C&RT are still making idiots of themselves. They eventually chose to formally discontinue the 2013-14 attempt after they read the Defence I submitted and renewed my PBC [the Registration Certificate they fraudulently 'sell' as a 'Rivers only Licence'] just prior to the hearing date, . . which cost them around £15-16,000 in costs. They're having another go at me along similar lines but the County Court Claim has been 'stayed' pending a final High Court decision on the extent of the Main Navigable Channel in C&RT's river navigations. That's going to Appeal now, and won't be heard until sometime around the end of this year, . . by which time I'll have renewed my PBC again. Their unswerving stupidity really is beyond belief !
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 28, 2018 16:58:10 GMT
Would the HSE allow CRT to remove a boat from their waterways with the occupier on the boat? And would the occupier or boat owner be allowed to live on the boat wherever it was removed to ? I'm pretty sure that C&RT wouldn't even think about craning/lifting out a boat with the owner or occupier still aboard, . . I'm equally surprised that no-one has, as yet, used this to their advantage when faced with a gang of C&RT's bogus bailiffs and boat thieving contractors.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 16:58:59 GMT
I'm not being judgemental, but I thought so. I've mentioned it before that I have a diagnosis of Asperger's which is an autism spectrum disorder. One of the symptoms is not giving a shit about anyone else. Only by meeting in person is it possible to judge someone properly. Another symptom is missing the point and inability to see the bigger picture (this can include attempting to make up a bigger picture in the absence of an obvious one) So yes. You are bang on the money
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 17:04:04 GMT
Skimmed the thread. My take. You either think it's a travesty that this man has been made homeless or you're a scumbag Sorry to go off topic but.... where the hell have you been? Thought you'd disappeared with the other side. Good to see you on here Rog
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Post by kris on Mar 28, 2018 17:05:15 GMT
Would the HSE allow CRT to remove a boat from their waterways with the occupier on the boat? And would the occupier or boat owner be allowed to live on the boat wherever it was removed to ? I'm pretty sure that C&RT wouldn't even think about craning/lifting out a boat with the owner or occupier still aboard, . . I'm equally surprised that no-one has, as yet, used this to their advantage when faced with a gang of C&RT's bogus bailiffs and boat thieving contractors. dont they get the police to remove people from their boats? I'm sure I've seen a video of the police getting someone off the boat before Crt take it away.
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Post by peterboat on Mar 28, 2018 17:06:22 GMT
I would like to know all the facts I think once again CRT have gone to far and once again help which is available wasnt offered. Its now a right mess which wont be sorted to anyone's satisfaction no matter what happens This thing however should never happen in this day and age
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 28, 2018 17:06:42 GMT
I'm not being judgemental, but I thought so. I've mentioned it before that I have a diagnosis of Asperger's which is an autism spectrum disorder. One of the symptoms is not giving a shit about anyone else. Only by meeting in person is it possible to judge someone properly. Another symptom is missing the point and inability to see the bigger picture (this can include attempting to make up a bigger picture in the absence of an obvious one) So yes. You are bang on the money That's interesting, Andrew. I wonder if C&RT are the first recorded instance of corporate Asberger's ?
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Post by kris on Mar 28, 2018 17:07:24 GMT
I'm not being judgemental, but I thought so. I've mentioned it before that I have a diagnosis of Asperger's which is an autism spectrum disorder. One of the symptoms is not giving a shit about anyone else. Only by meeting in person is it possible to judge someone properly. Another symptom is missing the point and inability to see the bigger picture (this can include attempting to make up a bigger picture in the absence of an obvious one) So yes. You are bang on the money im sorry to ask, but It males sense of some of your posts especially in a thread like this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 17:07:50 GMT
I'm not being judgemental, but I thought so. I've mentioned it before that I have a diagnosis of Asperger's which is an autism spectrum disorder. One of the symptoms is not giving a shit about anyone else. Only by meeting in person is it possible to judge someone properly. Another symptom is missing the point and inability to see the bigger picture (this can include attempting to make up a bigger picture in the absence of an obvious one) So yes. You are bang on the money Sorry. I am a top twat. Ignore me and my big mouth Rog
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 28, 2018 17:10:22 GMT
I'm pretty sure that C&RT wouldn't even think about craning/lifting out a boat with the owner or occupier still aboard, . . I'm equally surprised that no-one has, as yet, used this to their advantage when faced with a gang of C&RT's bogus bailiffs and boat thieving contractors. dont they get the police to remove people from their boats? I'm sure I've seen a video of the police getting someone off the boat before Crt take it away. I believe so, kris, and the plod are undoubtedly acting unlawfully in assisting C&RT to act beyond their powers. Time for a suitably worded letter to Chief Constables !
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 28, 2018 17:11:28 GMT
I agree it serves nobody but the problem is what would happen if nothing was done and suddenly there was a massive influx of scrappy boats. This would definitely happen in some areas. Obviously an unlicensed boat is never obliged to move so the 2 week rule does not apply. Do you just let the place fill up and turn into slum housing? CRT is a housing authority by default due to its history. This can not be denied by anyone but at the end of the day it is also responsible for enforcement of navigation licensing requirements so they are in a slightly dodgy position in my worthless opinion. I'm not suggusting boats should get away with not being licenced, I'm suggesting that for the sake of £1k and a few phone calls an old man has had his wholly owned home, slum boat or othwise, confiscated. Had he had simple help from wherever it came he'd now be licenced and legally pushed about every 14 days like everyone else without a mooring. Instead of that his life has been destroyed. I don't care if he spent every penny he could find on cider, this needn't have hapened, someone chose to destroy his life instead of offering a tiny bit of assistance. But this won’t have happened overnight. He will have had warnings and more warnings, dragging on for months, but is probably the bloody minded type that refuses to comply with statute because he thinks he is above such petty things as the law.
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 28, 2018 17:12:53 GMT
No, as in the Manchester arena thread, you are right. Let's ban poor people. Let's gas all those with mental health, drink or drug issues. Let's make the world fit for young rich people. I give up with you! Rog So what are you doing to help the poor people, those with mental health, drink and drug issues? Do you let them stay in your empty housewhen you’re on the boat? Do you let them stay on your boat when you are in the house?
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