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Post by kris on Jul 21, 2016 13:08:57 GMT
In case anybody hasn't seen it Crt's survey about book able moorings. I imagine they have already decided the outcome. All I would say is be careful what you wish for. IF they start charging £25 for book able moorings, it won't be long before every vm is £25 a night. www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/Londonbookablemooringsurvey
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Post by haulierp on Jul 21, 2016 13:40:59 GMT
Its the same old anti cc agenda by CRT,which is nothing more than a myth.I have no problems with bookable moorings in London, why should they be monopolised by people who just happen to want to live and work there ? Why should a young couple or even a retired one be deprived of a visit to the capital just because some feel its their god given right to set up camp and exploit a scarce resource ? "It won't be long before every VM is £25 a night" once again its mystic meg time,the VM that I see are scarcely occupied so I don't know where the profit will be in that for CRT ?
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 21, 2016 13:51:48 GMT
I'd welcome more London bookable moorings (and said as much when I responded to the survey a few weeks ago).
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Post by haulierp on Jul 21, 2016 16:45:18 GMT
I'd welcome more London bookable moorings (and said as much when I responded to the survey a few weeks ago). Honestly its like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic with this Topic. I was just thinking earlier that I haven't moored on a VM for years if ever. Its just they tend to be in the noisiest areas where quite frankly you wouldn't want to be.I have absolutely no interest in boating or the CRT I just love the solitude of the late afternoon in Midwinter with Radio4 and a mug of tea,it starts to get dark and I light the lamps,I can loose a hundred years right there by the fire.Those moments are priceless.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 21, 2016 16:54:59 GMT
I'd welcome more London bookable moorings (and said as much when I responded to the survey a few weeks ago). Honestly its like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic with this Topic. I was just thinking earlier that I haven't moored on a VM for years if ever. Its just they tend to be in the noisiest areas where quite frankly you wouldn't want to be.I have absolutely no interest in boating or the CRT I just love the solitude of the late afternoon in Midwinter with Radio4 and a mug of tea,it starts to get dark and I light the lamps,I can loose a hundred years right there by the fire.Those moments are priceless. That's fine and we often do the same, however it is not relevant in London where there are no such places. You could argue that there is no point in going to London due to all its noise and bustle, but it one of those things that's good to do very occasionally for short periods!
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Post by haulierp on Jul 21, 2016 17:06:43 GMT
Honestly its like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic with this Topic. I was just thinking earlier that I haven't moored on a VM for years if ever. Its just they tend to be in the noisiest areas where quite frankly you wouldn't want to be.I have absolutely no interest in boating or the CRT I just love the solitude of the late afternoon in Midwinter with Radio4 and a mug of tea,it starts to get dark and I light the lamps,I can loose a hundred years right there by the fire.Those moments are priceless. That's fine and we often do the same, however it is not relevant in London where there are no such places. You could argue that there is no point in going to London due to all its noise and bustle, but it one of those things that's good to do very occasionally for short periods! Sorry Nick my VM observations are in connection with the OP,s contention that the London Mooring Strategy will provide the template to be rolled out countrywide which I don't believe will be the case.London as you allude to is a special case which does indeed require a strategy
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 21, 2016 19:26:13 GMT
That's fine and we often do the same, however it is not relevant in London where there are no such places. You could argue that there is no point in going to London due to all its noise and bustle, but it one of those things that's good to do very occasionally for short periods! Sorry Nick my VM observations are in connection with the OP,s contention that the London Mooring Strategy will provide the template to be rolled out countrywide which I don't believe will be the case.London as you allude to is a special case which does indeed require a strategy Fine. But the OP's contention is clearly bullshit. The only way that pay-for VMs can work is when there is no alternative. Such as in London and Llangollen terminus. When there is alternative, such as nearly everywhere else, who is going to pay to moor when you can do it for free a few yards away?
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Post by Graham on Jul 21, 2016 22:31:15 GMT
Sorry Nick my VM observations are in connection with the OP,s contention that the London Mooring Strategy will provide the template to be rolled out countrywide which I don't believe will be the case.London as you allude to is a special case which does indeed require a strategy Fine. But the OP's contention is clearly bullshit. The only way that pay-for VMs can work is when there is no alternative. Such as in London and Llangollen terminus. When there is alternative, such as nearly everywhere else, who is going to pay to moor when you can do it for free a few yards away? I suspect that CRT's targets are the very casual intermittent boater and hirers who have no knowledge of the moorings etc. They will be given a list of moorings they can book and away they will go on their holiday.
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Post by haulierp on Jul 21, 2016 22:33:00 GMT
Sorry Nick my VM observations are in connection with the OP,s contention that the London Mooring Strategy will provide the template to be rolled out countrywide which I don't believe will be the case.London as you allude to is a special case which does indeed require a strategy Fine. But the OP's contention is clearly bullshit. The only way that pay-for VMs can work is when there is no alternative. Such as in London and Llangollen terminus. When there is alternative, such as nearly everywhere else, who is going to pay to moor when you can do it for free a few yards away? Have you been to your boat recently Nick and have you ventured onto the Crinan yet ? assuming of course your still in Aberdeen.
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Post by JohnV on Jul 21, 2016 22:50:08 GMT
Och .... the Crinan canal fer me I don't like the wild raging sea .........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osd8GSVDFB0
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 22, 2016 7:16:09 GMT
Fine. But the OP's contention is clearly bullshit. The only way that pay-for VMs can work is when there is no alternative. Such as in London and Llangollen terminus. When there is alternative, such as nearly everywhere else, who is going to pay to moor when you can do it for free a few yards away? Have you been to your boat recently Nick and have you ventured onto the Crinan yet ? assuming of course your still in Aberdeen. On the boat on the Caldon canal at the moment. The Crinan is not really a narrowboat canal. It's also very short so I'm not sure it would warrant a hire (if such a thing is available). But mostly, it annoys me that you are not allowed to work the locks, it all has to be arranged with Scottish Canals so you are permanently on a schedule. might be worth a visit by road, but it is a 9 hour round trip from Aberdeen.
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Post by haulierp on Jul 22, 2016 7:26:09 GMT
Have you been to your boat recently Nick and have you ventured onto the Crinan yet ? assuming of course your still in Aberdeen. On the boat on the Caldon canal at the moment. The Crinan is not really a narrowboat canal. It's also very short so I'm not sure it would warrant a hire (if such a thing is available). But mostly, it annoys me that you are not allowed to work the locks, it all has to be arranged with Scottish Canals so you are permanently on a schedule. might be worth a visit by road, but it is a 9 hour round trip from Aberdeen. I didn't know any of that,my old man is always going on about it but i have been here so long I can see little point.Apart from the coast,I have never been a great scenery person much preferring the cities for leisure.I had a lovely house in Norfolk once and spent most of my time driving back to London or even Milton Keynes for my equilibrium,seduction and mental wellbeing, too rural I am afraid.
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Post by JohnV on Jul 22, 2016 7:37:18 GMT
A trip through the Caledonian and Crinan canals has been on my bucket list for many years. (In my youth I was an avid reader of the Para Handy tales) Twice I thought I was going to get at least the Caledonian on a tug run but each time the job fell through and once it looked like I might have a delivery crew job from the Clyde to the Humber but that fell through as well. I have hopes that the Caledonian might possibly happen next year in Sabina H ........... if it happens, it happens.
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Post by kris on Jul 22, 2016 7:44:07 GMT
[quote author=" haulierp" source="/post/12527/.I had a lovely house in Norfolk once and spent most of my time driving back to London or even Milton Keynes for my equilibrium,seduction and mental wellbeing, too rural I am afraid. Dont you mean to see your dealer?
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 22, 2016 7:58:33 GMT
[quote author=" haulierp " source="/post/12527/.I had a lovely house in Norfolk once and spent most of my time driving back to London or even Milton Keynes for my equilibrium,seduction and mental wellbeing, too rural I am afraid. Dont you mean to see your dealer? How did you know he needed a new car?
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