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Post by Telemachus on Sept 23, 2024 18:20:57 GMT
I'm sure that at some point a manufacturer will come up with a genuine drop-in lithium battery. I imagine that an alternator designed for lithium batts is more likely. Which makes me wonder what is it that those cunning Japs attached to the Prius and the like. An alternator is an alternator, it is the control system (regulator) that differs between one used for charging LA batteries vs Li batteries. Car alternators are controlled by the car’s ECU and a programmable regulator chip. Which is exactly how and why I built my alternator controller - a standard programmable automotive regulator chip with “instructions” sent by a microcontroller, total cost about £50.
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Post by dogless on Sept 23, 2024 18:23:52 GMT
I believe Tom Malone (Malone Electrical Solar Services) is now doing a sort of 'off the shelf' Li boat power conversion ... full system change for around £3k to £5k depending on size.
I belive that includes solar panels, mppt , cables etc.
If I were considering Li , that's the guy I'd contact to speak to and come up with what suits my requirements.
Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 23, 2024 18:47:50 GMT
I believe Tom Malone (Malone Electrical Solar Services) is now doing a sort of 'off the shelf' Li boat power conversion ... full system change for around £5k. I belive that includes solar panels, mppt , cables etc. If I were considering Li , that's the guy I'd contact to speak to and come up with what suits my requirements. Rog I had a quick look at his website. Very expensive and not very good concept. Doesn’t include solar. B2Bs instead of alternator controller. Driving with the throttle wide open and controlling the speed with the brakes. If you are going to have someone do it for you, I’d go for Ed Shiers.
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Post by dogless on Sept 23, 2024 18:53:35 GMT
I believe Tom Malone (Malone Electrical Solar Services) is now doing a sort of 'off the shelf' Li boat power conversion ... full system change for around £5k. I belive that includes solar panels, mppt , cables etc. If I were considering Li , that's the guy I'd contact to speak to and come up with what suits my requirements. Rog I had a quick look at his website. Very expensive and not very good concept. Doesn’t include solar. B2Bs instead of alternator controller. Driving with the throttle wide open and controlling the speed with the brakes. If you are going to have someone do it for you, I’d go for Ed Shiers. I'm not. Ed Shiers did the solar on my mates boat ... Tom Malone did mine. I would recommend both to anyone, but I'd go to Tom Malone. Apart from the fridge I don't use enough power to warrant changing. Rog
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Post by on Sept 23, 2024 18:57:54 GMT
I imagine that an alternator designed for lithium batts is more likely. Which makes me wonder what is it that those cunning Japs attached to the Prius and the like. An alternator is an alternator, it is the control system (regulator) that differs between one used for charging LA batteries vs Li batteries. Car alternators are controlled by the car’s ECU and a programmable regulator chip. Which is exactly how and why I built my alternator controller - a standard programmable automotive regulator chip with “instructions” sent by a microcontroller, total cost about £50. An alternator is an alternator but they are not all the same. Some have electromagnets and some have permanent magnets. Stators and rotors innit. I think there will be some interesting permanent magnet alternators turning up at some point. The traditional problem with pma was that it would tend to overcharge your lead acid battery. Put a pma on a magnetic clutch pulley and interesting things could be done. But yeah a clever guy doing his own £59 hack is mire economical for sure.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 23, 2024 18:58:45 GMT
I think I'll stick to lead acid batteries for the time being. They do the job, they are inexpensive, and they drop straight in. Three Hankook batteries work out at about £200 once the scrap value of the old batteries is taken into consideration. I understand that the Lithium battery manufacturers are working on producing drop-in Li replacement batteries and once they bring some to market I might look at them.
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 23, 2024 18:59:16 GMT
I had a quick look at his website. Very expensive and not very good concept. Doesn’t include solar. B2Bs instead of alternator controller. Driving with the throttle wide open and controlling the speed with the brakes. If you are going to have someone do it for you, I’d go for Ed Shiers. I'm not. Ed Shiers did the solar on my mates boat ... Tom Malone did mine. I would recommend both to anyone, but I'd go to Tom Malone. Apart from the fridge I don't use enough power to warrant changing. Rog Malone’s main business is solar. He is probably quite good at that, but of course it is technically very simple. He is branching out into Li batteries, he is probably a bit out of his depth. Ed understands the issues with Li much better.
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Post by The Hooded Claw on Sept 23, 2024 19:10:18 GMT
I imagine that an alternator designed for lithium batts is more likely. Which makes me wonder what is it that those cunning Japs attached to the Prius and the like. An alternator is an alternator, it is the control system (regulator) that differs between one used for charging LA batteries vs Li batteries. Car alternators are controlled by the car’s ECU and a programmable regulator chip. Which is exactly how and why I built my alternator controller - a standard programmable automotive regulator chip with “instructions” sent by a microcontroller, total cost about £50. Gee I'm sorry, of course I should have been more specific and tekkynicle since obviously you would be reading this and be gripped by an irresistible desire to show how great you are.
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Post by on Sept 23, 2024 19:13:59 GMT
Yet he never worked out the coding to reduce head size to reasonably manageable dimensions.
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Post by Andyberg on Sept 23, 2024 19:21:08 GMT
Quality…Galvanised metal mains backbox mounted onto, not sunken into the wall bottom left… Obviously a man who knows what he’s doing & takes pride in his work!😂😂 🙄
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 23, 2024 19:28:17 GMT
Quality…Galvanised metal mains backbox mounted onto, not sunken into the wall bottom left… Obviously a man who knows what he’s doing & takes pride in his work!😂😂 🙄 The whole set-up looks like it has been installed by some type of clown.
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 23, 2024 19:34:48 GMT
An alternator is an alternator, it is the control system (regulator) that differs between one used for charging LA batteries vs Li batteries. Car alternators are controlled by the car’s ECU and a programmable regulator chip. Which is exactly how and why I built my alternator controller - a standard programmable automotive regulator chip with “instructions” sent by a microcontroller, total cost about £50. Gee I'm sorry, of course I should have been more specific and tekkynicle since obviously you would be reading this and be gripped by an irresistible desire to show how great you are. I don’t need to show how great I am. However it is mildly amusing to show how thick you are. Although it is not really a challenge.
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Post by on Sept 23, 2024 19:38:55 GMT
Quality…Galvanised metal mains backbox mounted onto, not sunken into the wall bottom left… Obviously a man who knows what he’s doing & takes pride in his work!😂😂 🙄 The whole set-up looks like it has been installed by some type of clown. It looks to me like it was installed by an Indian. Or a slitty eyed chinaman.
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Post by The Hooded Claw on Sept 23, 2024 19:38:57 GMT
Gee I'm sorry, of course I should have been more specific and tekkynicle since obviously you would be reading this and be gripped by an irresistible desire to show how great you are. I don’t need to show how great I am. However it is mildly amusing to show how thick you are. Although it is not really a challenge. Righto.
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Post by on Sept 23, 2024 19:40:43 GMT
You will need to change the username again I think. I keep seeing the TD version and laughing.
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