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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 16:34:34 GMT
72ft narrow boat with slideouts would do it. I'm amazed nobody has put slideouts on narrow boats. It would be above waterline so not really a big deal re sealing it and you would have interlocks so boat could not be moved until the slideouts were slid in. Pikeys have been doing them for years If you had a load of old gits in there it would be ideal. I would add windows in the ends so the old codgers could look out and ogle the young ladies or moan about the idiot cyclists and little slots so they could poke them with the walking sticks. And USB charging points and free WiFi. Eta it might be an interesting option for quaysider once all the locks are broken. Just cruise up and down pounds and encourage the oldies to play with their tablets and point out all the interesting things. Bad things Eastern Europeans taking the piss. Cyclists taking the piss. Fishermen moaning about boats. Boatmen moaning about the fish. Good things Cormorants necking the fish. Wildlife reproduction (ducks have the longest willies in the animal kingdom) Good mannered kind considerate boaters that would do anything to help you even jumping into a lock with paddles up. Being on water is Good. Take the money and run in it.
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Post by bargemast on Apr 14, 2019 17:19:56 GMT
I heard about this topic last year when we randomly were able to stay on a horrible houseboat near Paris at St Cloud because the woman's friend happened to be going out with a bloke who was caretaker for the houseboat and looked after the owners dog. Apparently they were new requirements about the anchorage to the river bank (river Seine) which was going to be expensive.
Judging by the thing we stayed on I doubt the finances would have been a problem (you never know) but if this was some sort of new requirement over the whole system it could be very bad for a lot of people who don't have money to burn. I hope you can sort it out Peter. Maybe selling and getting or keeping a small boat is the key. That's what I am planning to do as will not be able to afford to keep a big boat and mooring for much longer. A guy I know is moored on a dead arm of the Seine downstream of Paris (Port Marly) he's still fairly young and had the money to get an expert to check his mooring, and then he was obliged to get 19m long and 70 cm diam tubes planted in the riverbed, but as he's young, he may hang around there for another 30 years (or more), and possibly can even sell his mooring when he wants to go elsewhere. If I get enough time selling both boats and buying something smaller would be the key, but it will have to go quick as my other mooring agreement will finish jan 31th 2020. Peter.
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Post by bargemast on Apr 14, 2019 17:23:04 GMT
I found a plastic sub machine gun in the river Ouche near Dijon today.
I think its a child's toy. God knows why anyone would want their kids to play with scarily realistic guns but c'est la vie. La vie de merde. Been magnet fishing again ? Peter.
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Post by bargemast on Apr 14, 2019 17:34:47 GMT
Have you not thought about living on a boat in a marina in England? Popping out occasionally when you fancy a little jaunt? Let Social Security pay for the lot I thought about living in the UK in 1971 when I'd left the Nato and was living in London with a lovely girl for 3 months, but when I went back to the Netherland to pick up more money, I had an offer for a job that I couldn't refuse, and that changed the plans I'd had before. Now it's too late and too much hassle trying to find good doctors to look after me a bit longer, and I don't think that the Social Security would be happy to pay for the lot, and surely even less so after Brexit. The Social Security here would probably not be willing to pay for a mooring in a marina for me here either. Peter.
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Post by bargemast on Apr 14, 2019 17:37:16 GMT
Have you not thought about living on a boat in a marina in England? Popping out occasionally when you fancy a little jaunt? Let Social Security pay for the lot I was going to ask the same thing but I expect at his age ( he's about 82 I believe ) it's going to be a bit tricky. At the moment I feel like being 82 although I don't know how that feels), next year I will be 10 years younger (if I make it). Peter.
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Post by phil70 on Apr 14, 2019 18:15:52 GMT
Talking of photos, I shall be doing a touch of boating at Easter, and will try to take photos that may appeal to Thunderboaters. I'm hopefully boating in May..rest assured if I do everyone will know and I'll be taking lots of pics...plan is Scotland and the Clyde. Lucky gurl. Phil
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 18:37:15 GMT
I found a plastic sub machine gun in the river Ouche near Dijon today.
I think its a child's toy. God knows why anyone would want their kids to play with scarily realistic guns but c'est la vie. La vie de merde. Been magnet fishing again ? Peter. Unfortunately my DPhil about plastic magnetism was cut short by my "can't be arsed syndrome" issues. If I had completed it and patented the world-beating product before the Chinese grabbed it I would not need to be living in a tin box on a ditch full of rubbish.
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Post by patty on Apr 14, 2019 18:49:31 GMT
For me the time has come to do everything I can to sell my boats without losing too much money doing that, so that I can buy a small boat back and hopefully cruise around for a couple of years, while trying to enjoy life and spending the money that's leftover, making sure that there's nothing left for the official thieving instances to confiscate when my heart stops beating. Peter. Hi Peter.. I'm a bit behind with catching up on whats been posted...D-I-Y, dog sitting and crawling over a lawn with hand shears (daughters lawn mower broken) filled my day and wore me out..I know I said I never wanted to ever ever use a lawn mower again but its taking forever crawling across long grass with stupid shears. Ah well keeping me out of mischief... I'm really sorry to read of what is happening in your life ATM..as others have said, continue to share on here. I like to think of us all as your friends even if in the virtual world and we cannot all pop over and lend a hand.. I hope you manage to sell your boats and get yourself what you want.. We all hit rough patches in life and i think that is when friends are so important.. Take care
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Post by phil70 on Apr 14, 2019 20:25:12 GMT
I was going to ask the same thing but I expect at his age ( he's about 82 I believe ) it's going to be a bit tricky. At the moment I feel like being 82 although I don't know how that feels), next year I will be 10 years younger (if I make it). Peter. Peter, you will make it. If it helps if you are in a marina you can claim the following, housing benefit for the cost of your mooring and the cost of your licence as these costs are effectively "the rent" you have to pay to float your home on the water. If you have to pay for water and rubbish disposal these also form part of your rent so they should be included in your "rent" provided you have less than £15000 in savings all will be well. Not sure how it works for council tax as it's not required at my marina, nearly all liveaboards too. Check out pension credit too as this is a benefit which tops up your pension to the amount the Government says you need to live on. Despite what you might be led to believe the various agencies are more than helpful to us old silverbacks. Any questions? PM me. ATB phil
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Post by bargemast on Apr 15, 2019 6:48:12 GMT
At the moment I feel like being 82 although I don't know how that feels), next year I will be 10 years younger (if I make it). Peter. Peter, you will make it. If it helps if you are in a marina you can claim the following, housing benefit for the cost of your mooring and the cost of your licence as these costs are effectively "the rent" you have to pay to float your home on the water. If you have to pay for water and rubbish disposal these also form part of your rent so they should be included in your "rent" provided you have less than £15000 in savings all will be well. Not sure how it works for council tax as it's not required at my marina, nearly all liveaboards too. Check out pension credit too as this is a benefit which tops up your pension to the amount the Government says you need to live on. Despite what you might be led to believe the various agencies are more than helpful to us old silverbacks. Any questions? PM me. ATB phil Hi Phil, I can tell you that I'll do all that I can to make it (at least) to 82 years, but I have to convince my heart to do the same, as only together we'll have a chance . About the housing etc benefit, I have no idea at all how these things work in France, all I know that you're much better off if you've got nothing, no housing (house or boat) no car, no bank account, just nothing, as then they'll supply housing, and everything else you need to survive. Right now, I'm not in good shape, physical and financial, but if I do manage to sell my boats, I should have more than enough to survive until I'm 82, that is if some people are willing to pay the value (or not too much less) for my boats, and after that buying a smaller boat, I "should" still have quite a bit more than £15000 left in my bank account (if all is well). A couple of years ago I had a problem with the tax people, as I still had a bit more money than the max amount you were allowed to have before you were going to be taxed, when I told them that living on and maintaining a boat was a costly affair, and that the 4 yearly maintenance of the hull, without the need for repairs would easily set me back already around €3000, and what if I would have the misfortune of needing more serious stuff done, and possibly had to repair or replace the engine ? In such a case the money I had wouldn't be enough to pay for these costs, and nowhere would I be able to get a loan to pay for these costs, as I needed already more to pay for my fixed costs than the monies I receive as my retirement pension. Of course, this wasn't their problem, and their answer was that I would have to work that out for myself, and in such a case sell my boat. Knowing how hard it would be to sell a boat with a non-working engine, and/or needing repairs, wouldn't be easy and losing a huge amount of the realistic value. So with this still in mind, I don't think that there's much hope (and if all is well no need) asking for financial help, as the general idea might be the same here than it is in the UK, if you live on a boat, you must be rich even if that's all you own. Of course there may be people thinking that I own (at least) a house in another country, which isn't my case, as I've never owned a house, and not even lived in one for the last 47 years, and I'm not a fully licensed plumber (gas-installer) either . I do appreciate your efforts helping me with the necessary information Phil, but my case isn't such an easy one to resolve (I think), and I have to get motivated to do something about this to change this most unpleasant situation. Because of this situation I can hardly sleep, as it go's on spinning around in my head night and day, and being tired doesn't help in getting the much needed motivation either. For the time being, I'm still much better off than people living in cardboard boxes somewhere under a bridge, and I should be happy about that. Peter.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 15, 2019 7:14:56 GMT
How about getting a narrowboat and living happily ever after in a secluded marina such as Ashwood, a short arm off the main canal, the Staffs & Worcs, which isn't particularly busy. Nice scenery whether you turn left or right, and turning right brings you, after a day, top the Shroppie which is another nice canal. Wouldn't Social Security / pension see you through in such a situation? And nice English people instead of garlic-smelling frog-eating Frenchies No shops at Ashwood, though, and the nearest pub has had finger-waggings from the health inspector. There's a food shop in Kinver.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 7:32:56 GMT
As I understand it the value of your boat is not taken into account when applying for Housing Benefit to pay for a mooring. In the UK that is. I don't think they take into account the Bentley either. So if you had a £300,000 barge on a residential mooring, a £100,000 Bentley but less than £15,000 savings you would be eligible for Housing Benefit. phil70 would be able to confirm. I expect there must be some limits or it would be too much of a loophole.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 7:37:07 GMT
How about getting a narrowboat and living happily ever after in a secluded marina such as Ashwood, a short arm off the main canal, the Staffs & Worcs, which isn't particularly busy. Nice scenery whether you turn left or right, and turning right brings you, after a day, top the Shroppie which is another nice canal. Wouldn't Social Security / pension see you through in such a situation? And nice English people instead of garlic-smelling frog-eating Frenchies No shops at Ashwood, though, and the nearest pub has had finger-waggings from the health inspector. There's a food shop in Kinver. Or he could do a Mr Stabby and get a narrow boat, a low cost rural mooring, car and moped. There's no flies on him
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 15, 2019 7:42:28 GMT
How about getting a narrowboat and living happily ever after in a secluded marina such as Ashwood, a short arm off the main canal, the Staffs & Worcs, which isn't particularly busy. Nice scenery whether you turn left or right, and turning right brings you, after a day, top the Shroppie which is another nice canal. Wouldn't Social Security / pension see you through in such a situation? And nice English people instead of garlic-smelling frog-eating Frenchies No shops at Ashwood, though, and the nearest pub has had finger-waggings from the health inspector. There's a food shop in Kinver. Or he could do a Mr Stabby and get a narrow boat, a low cost rural mooring, car and moped. There's no flies on him It does work for me, although I only keep the car because I need it to get to work when I do work, when I retire in 6-7 years time it will go as it's £1,000 a year I can save.
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Post by phil70 on Apr 15, 2019 8:58:10 GMT
As I understand it the value of your boat is not taken into account when applying for Housing Benefit to pay for a mooring. In the UK that is. I don't think they take into account the Bentley either. So if you had a £300,000 barge on a residential mooring, a £100,000 Bentley but less than £15,000 savings you would be eligible for Housing Benefit. phil70 would be able to confirm. I expect there must be some limits or it would be too much of a loophole. The value of boat or car does not come into it. Stop thinking boat but think home. Land dwellers are not questioned about the value of their possessions so the same applies to boats. In claiming benefits all that matters is how much cash you have not equity. Phil
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