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Post by kris on Sept 24, 2020 12:36:28 GMT
Can this thread reach 20 pages... I think so. Given that a thread about 'glorious sunshine' can get into the hundreds, I'd suggest a final total of just 20 is a tad pessimistic. Well you started it and you have not even updated us on the “nut.”
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 24, 2020 12:40:37 GMT
Given that a thread about 'glorious sunshine' can get into the hundreds, I'd suggest a final total of just 20 is a tad pessimistic. Well you started it and you have not even updated us on the “nut.” I did but it probably got lost amongst all the barely associated guff. The solution is to leave the nut, lean the bike over to 45 degrees and pump out the oil with my vacuum pump.
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Post by kris on Sept 24, 2020 12:42:20 GMT
Well you started it and you have not even updated us on the “nut.” I did but it probably got lost amongst all the barely associated guff. The solution is to leave the nut, lean the bike over to 45 degrees and pump out the oil with my vacuum pump. Have you done it yet?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 13:15:37 GMT
If you’ve got so many customers calling and emailing you, why are you complaining about thunderboat? Surely it’s good business for you? I haven't complained about TB, . . I have simply pointed out that some potential new members, as well as some existing ones, would rather seek advice from a source that doesn't resemble a bear pit populated by the inept and the infantile. Whether they choose to seek whatever advice, help, or service they want via posting on TB or contacting me directly via e-mail or phone ultimately makes no difference as far as I'm concerned. Either way, they make contact with me and get want they want, . . . the only loser is TB itself in terms of both it's standing, membership numbers, and numbers of regular active contributors. Have you considered pointing people towards canalworld? Having existed for quite a long time now there is a very detailed and easily searchable (Google) database of more or less every conceivable question anyone could ask about canal boats. Of course the motorcycle nut question would probably be for a motorcycle forum and yes it will have been asked. This forum, while populated by hugely intelligent and knowledgeable people, is not a database and I don't believe that is the aim. Maybe it is. Who knows. Anyway it's time for my daily toe massage.
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Post by Jim on Sept 24, 2020 14:05:48 GMT
I hope this thread doesn't make 22 pages...
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Post by TonyDunkley on Sept 24, 2020 14:14:43 GMT
The part sentence highlighted in bold and underlined is simply not true, . . is it ! Have you forgotten your recent vehement opposition to my suggestion that Kris should use his L&L Shortboat to block the MNC of the Trent at Barton Island where C&RT had allowed the river to become impassable for anything drawing much more than a couple of feet. Was that not an example of your - "all things Trent" ? As I said in response to your irrational outrage at the time, I take great exception to the implication carried within your opposition to what I was suggesting that I would ever ask or encourage anyone to do anything in the remotely bit hazardous to either themselves or their boat. If it had just been a “suggestion” I don’t think Rog would have got involved. But it wasn’t just a suggestion now was it? Do I have to go back and quote your obnoxious bile so you remember? Or have you been through all your posts, during your early morning editing sprees? Not sure which posts you're referring to. This one from 19 July : Instead of dreaming up ideas on how to provide C&RT's lawyers with opportunities to dump massive costs liabilities on anyone with enough backbone to stand up to them, why don't you take your boat down to Barton Island and ground it in what's left of the MNC, . . the resulting inconvenience to all the boats that are unlikely to be able to get past should lead to at least some measure of outrage directed at C&RT's negligence.- or this one from 20 July : So, . . you're quite happy to routinely bounce your boat over all the assorted junk in the canal through Beeston and Nottingham, . . but you're unwilling to run it aground on a bank of clean level sand that was deposited in the MNC by last year's floods. Sounds to me like a pretty lame excuse for staying inconspicuously in the background whilst others make your points and arguments for you !
As for C&RT's intentions with regard to dredging out all the flooding induced shoaling in the Trent, I can tell you right now exactly what they plan to do, . . . absolutely nothing, . . for just as long as the reticent and the mealy-mouthed allow them to get away with it !
. . . . . . to neither of which were you willing to provide anything resembling a relevant or honest answer !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 14:22:30 GMT
Well you started it and you have not even updated us on the “nut.” I did but it probably got lost amongst all the barely associated guff. The solution is to leave the nut, lean the bike over to 45 degrees and pump out the oil with my vacuum pump. This is plainly ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 14:25:44 GMT
I did but it probably got lost amongst all the barely associated guff. The solution is to leave the nut, lean the bike over to 45 degrees and pump out the oil with my vacuum pump. This is plainly ridiculous. I know - he needs to turn it through 180° to get it all out 😁👍
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 14:32:54 GMT
This is plainly ridiculous. I know - he needs to turn it through 180° to get it all out 😁👍
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 24, 2020 15:07:18 GMT
I did but it probably got lost amongst all the barely associated guff. The solution is to leave the nut, lean the bike over to 45 degrees and pump out the oil with my vacuum pump. This is plainly ridiculous. Indeed but it's all in hand. Rather than pay Halfrauds £11.00 for a litre of oil I've ordered 4 litres of the same spec for £19.00 delivered. Accepting that I'll not get all of the oil out with my alternative method I'll change it every 1,000 miles rather than every 2,000. The 'part worn' oil that remains following vacuum pumping will mix with the nice fresh stuff giving 'only so ever slightly worn oil'. So, all in all the little engine will be getting treated nicely, and I'll save a couple of quid. What's not to like? Anyway, this bike has the same engine as the Honda Vario. I rent one of these every year in Bali. The only servicing they do is when a someone (usually a girl, foreigner, wearing only a bikini) falls off having not realised that kerbs are a hazard to motor cycles or sometimes a man (Usually drunk, often dies as a result). The last one I rented had 60,000km on the clock. I'll be dead before I reach 60,000km.
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Post by patty on Sept 24, 2020 15:10:14 GMT
This is plainly ridiculous. Indeed but it's all in hand. Rather than pay Halfrauds £11.00 for a litre of oil I've ordered 4 litres of the same spec for £19.00 delivered. Accepting that I'll not get all of the oil out with my alternative method I'll change it every 1,000 miles rather than every 2,000. The 'part worn' oil that remains following vacuum pumping will mix with the nice fresh stuff giving 'only so ever slightly worn oil'. So, all in all the little engine will be getting treated nicely, and I'll save a couple of quid. What's not to like? Anyway, this bike has the same engine as the Honda Vario. I rent one of these every year in Bali. The only servicing they do is when a someone (usually a girl, foreigner, wearing only a bikini) falls off having not realised that kerbs are a hazard to motor cycles or sometimes a man (Usually drunk, often dies as a result). The last one I rented had 60,000km on the clock. I'll be dead before I reach 60,000km. That seems a suitable solution to the problem of a stubborn nut.... Now how do we resolve the other ........ .... on here?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 15:30:56 GMT
This is plainly ridiculous. Indeed but it's all in hand. Rather than pay Halfrauds £11.00 for a litre of oil I've ordered 4 litres of the same spec for £19.00 delivered. Accepting that I'll not get all of the oil out with my alternative method I'll change it every 1,000 miles rather than every 2,000. The 'part worn' oil that remains following vacuum pumping will mix with the nice fresh stuff giving 'only so ever slightly worn oil'. So, all in all the little engine will be getting treated nicely, and I'll save a couple of quid. What's not to like? Anyway, this bike has the same engine as the Honda Vario. I rent one of these every year in Bali. The only servicing they do is when a someone (usually a girl, foreigner, wearing only a bikini) falls off having not realised that kerbs are a hazard to motor cycles or sometimes a man (Usually drunk, often dies as a result). The last one I rented had 60,000km on the clock. I'll be dead before I reach 60,000km. I wish I could take a look at it - I'm convinced the problem is the nut is hung up on a damaged thread because the exhaust you speak of was forced on by some ham-fisted genius. I also know that gently working the nut down the thread perhaps with a blob of oil on the thread would sort it (been there t-shirt acquired). Its unlikely the thread was completely wrecked. But we've been over it and its your bike after all. What you are doing is still ridiculous though. I suggest you buy some better tools - Laser are good enough, but there are better. I have some Japanese sockets made by a firm amusingly called 'Kokon' which are very good indeed. I wonder if they get the joke?
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 24, 2020 15:41:34 GMT
The nut that's seized is more or less directly below the exhaust it's been subjected to salt etc. and rarely cleaned or oiled. The thread isn't wrecked, the nut has just seized onto it. It probably could be moved with the right tools but the risk is that the stud snaps instead. I really don't need that hassle so on balance my solution is better.
We all pump oil out of our boat engines, what's wrong with doing the same with a bike? Warm the engine up, tie a rope to it from the handrail of my boat, lean it over to around 45 degrees towards the oil filling hole, sorted.
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Post by Jim on Sept 24, 2020 15:41:35 GMT
So in summary... There isn't room to get a standard long socket in, so @gazza's proposal of a box spanner would be my number one choice, maybe heat assisted. A partially ground slimmer socket would be stronger possibly, can't recall who suggested that. A nut splitter - no room, hence my suggestion of a little slitting disk in a dremel to split the nut if all else fails. I don't see how screwing another nut down the thread would assist at all, possibly clean up the thread a bit, but to what end? It's not going to free up the stuck nut. What other options?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 15:47:35 GMT
I was going to suggest going through the dipstick hole with one of those suction pumps, while the oil is hot, but not sure if you have one of the pumps.
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