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Post by TonyDunkley on Sept 17, 2020 13:21:24 GMT
Oh God, not nails as well. It's been a silly thread. Probably one of the best examples to be found of the blind leading the blind in search of an answer to a question that hasn't been asked. Can't get a ring spanner onto a couple of nuts because they're too close to the pipe emerging from the flange the nuts are on, and I've rounded one of the nuts off using an open-ender, . . . and the suggested remedies are either - " run the other nut up to the ruined one" - or - "If the nut won't move the stud probably will".Does anyone else remember Billy Bean, . . apart from his two apprentices quoted above ? < www.doyouremember.co.uk/memory/billy-bean-and-his-funny-machine >
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 13:35:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 13:37:08 GMT
It's been a silly thread. Don't pitch in with silly puns then. That's a fine suggestion. Of coarse.
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Post by kris on Sept 17, 2020 13:37:45 GMT
No, heβs got to take the engine out and leave it on his back deck for three weeks first.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 13:45:40 GMT
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Post by patty on Sept 17, 2020 15:09:27 GMT
thats what I need for my gate as I cannot get ord spanner in...gosh it was worth trawling through 6 pages.... The thing is it doesn't look like anyone made one like that in metric sizes. Imperial only it seems. Dam..thats another 6 pages I'll have to wade through before someone suggests something similar....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 15:20:27 GMT
It's been a silly thread. Probably one of the best examples to be found of the blind leading the blind in search of an answer to a question that hasn't been asked. Can't get a ring spanner onto a couple of nuts because they're too close to the pipe emerging from the flange the nuts are on, and I've rounded one of the nuts off using an open-ender, . . . and the suggested remedies are either - " run the other nut up to the ruined one" - or - "If the nut won't move the stud probably will".Does anyone else remember Billy Bean, . . apart from his two apprentices quoted above ? < www.doyouremember.co.uk/memory/billy-bean-and-his-funny-machine > I have several engineering studs taken from various alloy parts where the nut was so solidly fused to the stud that, when attempting the move that nut, the stud in fact unscrewed first. Which is fine - I put them in a bag of stuff I might use at some point. You cock.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 15:44:34 GMT
In this situation if both of the studs acted as bolts with a seized nut on the end which you are undoing then would there be room to unscrew them? I get the impression that the one which Clinton Cool managed to get off was just the nut, which means that if the other one acted as a bolt ie had a seized nut then the thing could be loosened off. Question then being where is the next attachment point holding on the exhaust and how easy is it to undo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 15:57:08 GMT
In this situation if both of the studs acted as bolts with a seized nut on the end which you are undoing then would there be room to unscrew them? I get the impression that the one which Clinton Cool managed to get off was just the nut, which means that if the other one acted as a bolt ie had a seized nut then the thing could be loosened off. Question then being where is the next attachment point holding on the exhaust and how easy is it to undo. I had the impression that not only was the nut ruined by ineptitude and cheap tools (and I would add it might well have been so before Ricco looked at it) but the thread on the outer part of the stud was also similarly fucked (a technical term) which prevented the nut from running nicely. The 'next attachment point' is likely a point about half-way along the length of the exhaust system which supports the greater part of the weight. However without having seen it, it is also possible the exhaust is in two parts ie the header and the silencer (motorcycle exhausts are often one piece though, esp. on smaller machines). This design classic has a cat though, so it probably isn't a one-piece item. I've never seem one of these up close but I expect it is like the majority of situations on Jap bikes where it is essential that the header pipe can move from the engine studs before it is possible to do anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 16:00:47 GMT
I get the impression that the one which Clinton Cool managed to get off was just the nut, which means that if the other one acted as a bolt ie had a seized nut then the thing could be loosened off. That's what I spent some time trying to point out to a bonehead yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 16:01:33 GMT
I get the impression that the one which Clinton Cool managed to get off was just the nut, which means that if the other one acted as a bolt ie had a seized nut then the thing could be loosened off. That's what I spent some time trying to point out to a bonehead yesterday. Yes but the other one did not follow the same protocol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 16:06:39 GMT
That's what I spent some time trying to point out to a bonehead yesterday. Yes but the other one did not follow the same protocol I bet that even means something.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 17, 2020 16:16:42 GMT
No, I've bottled it, going to pump as much out as possible by leaning the bike over and be done with it. Just waiting for oil to arrive by post, I aint paying Halfrauds prices. The next oil change involves cleaning the 'oil spinner', which involves removing the crankcase cover. I can take that opportunity to completely drain the oil.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Sept 17, 2020 16:33:50 GMT
For the benefit of Billy Bean's two myopic apprentices, and anyone else who either didn't bother to read or couldn't understand Ricco's question at the start of this thread, here is the part of it that outlined the problem he was having. It's in large print with omissions and the incorrect references to 'bolts' corrected in square brackets and the especially important words highlighted in bold and underlined :
The exhaust is secured to the engine with a flange and a pair of longish 12mm bolts [nuts], these screw on to threaded studs. The bolts [nuts] are so close to the poorly designed exhaust [pipe] that there isn't room to get a ring spanner in there. Using an open ended spanner I managed to loosen one of the bolts [nuts] but the other one stubbornly refuses to move. A bit more effort resulted in the partial wrecking of the bolt [nut]. I wd40'd it the day before, and again before trying to loosen it.
I hope that makes it a bit easier for them to understand. But if they're still struggling, perhaps they could get a moderately bright 5 year-old to explain it to them. You never know, . . they might even be lucky enough to find one willing to give them some practical guidance and help with any future mechanical work or problems they come up against !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 16:47:37 GMT
For the benefit of Billy Bean's two myopic apprentices, and anyone else who either didn't bother to read or couldn't understand Ricco's question at the start of this thread, here is the part of it that outlined the problem he was having. It's in large print with omissions and the incorrect references to 'bolts' corrected in square brackets and the especially important words highlighted in bold and underlined :The exhaust is secured to the engine with a flange and a pair of longish 12mm bolts [nuts], these screw on to threaded studs. The bolts [nuts] are so close to the poorly designed exhaust [pipe] that there isn't room to get a ring spanner in there. Using an open ended spanner I managed to loosen one of the bolts [nuts] but the other one stubbornly refuses to move. A bit more effort resulted in the partial wrecking of the bolt [nut]. I wd40'd it the day before, and again before trying to loosen it.I hope that makes it a bit easier for them to understand. But if they're still struggling, perhaps they could get a moderately bright 5 year-old to explain it to them. You never know, . . they might even be lucky enough to find one willing to give them some practical guidance and help with any future mechanical work or problems they come up against ! Which is why a box spanner is the answer ππ
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