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Post by Telemachus on Jan 19, 2021 9:41:14 GMT
You were banned from CWDF. Permanently. This is a fact. As to whether the reason cited was “obnoxious arsehole” well I agree it probably wasn’t. But it was for the sort of behaviour you have recently been demonstrating on here. One can pick ones own adjectives to describe that behaviour, but the principle remains. That behaviour is of course triggered as soon as someone disagrees with you. The sad thing is you don’t even realise it. yet again ................... Liar
Too many people on here remember the truth ......... do one
It’s very easy to say “liar” without offering any evidence or alternative explanation. Donald Trump has recently made it popular, I guess you are following his lead. Do you agree you were permanently banned from CWDF? If so, why were you permanently banned?
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Post by JohnV on Jan 19, 2021 9:45:27 GMT
yet again ................... Liar
Too many people on here remember the truth ......... do one
It’s very easy to say “liar” without offering any evidence or alternative explanation. Donald Trump has recently made it popular, I guess you are following his lead. Do you agree you were permanently banned from CWDF? If so, why were you permanently banned? as I said ........... do one
You are the one attempting to re write the past
I will simply add that in all the years I was on CWDF I never was warned, suspended or put on moderation .... but can you say the same ?
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Post by lollygagger on Jan 19, 2021 9:48:26 GMT
If add the word "illegal" in front of the word "drugs" you'd be correct. We're just worried that you don't understand that alcohol is a drug, you could could get in a right pickle (see what I did there). Adding the word 'illegal' would be making YOUR point not mine ... I wasn't in anyway differentiating between drink and drugs other than to indicate my vice is drink. That was it ... selecting my vice from options given by @bassplayer ... no virtue ... no superiority ... nothing contentious ... and my point was that I drink cos I enjoy it ... not for 'peace'. Any chance we can move on ? Rog Well yes you were and you still are making a distinction between alcohol and drugs. If I were to say I smoke weed but don't take drugs that would be equally ludicrous. Yes we can move on, but not while you have the last word.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 19, 2021 9:54:29 GMT
It’s very easy to say “liar” without offering any evidence or alternative explanation. Donald Trump has recently made it popular, I guess you are following his lead. Do you agree you were permanently banned from CWDF? If so, why were you permanently banned? as I said ........... do one
You are the one attempting to re write the past
I will simply add that in all the years I was on CWDF I never was warned, suspended or put on moderation .... but can you say the same ?
“do one” is so very northern and crude, and I’m unclear how I can do one and then answer your question. Quite irrational. But never mind I’ll do this one anyway. I had a 2 week suspension for persistently telling Daniel that he needed to change his mods. Not for being rude, nasty or obnoxious. That is all. You were permanently banned. Why did the mods pick on you and not one of the thousands of other members? Was it random? Seems unlikely. Or was it because of your reputation for getting rude, obnoxious and angry whenever someone disagreed with you. Who knows, but you certainly fit the profile for the latter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 10:01:55 GMT
I was just randomly thinking (as I do normally), I wonder whethere outside of our brain really did get too big? I mean, I watch the ducks, sheep etc, and they seem pretty content most of the time. Even monkeys look content grooming eachother. Then many of us drink or take drugs to dumb the outer brain down a bit to give ourselves some peace. Is 'intellegence' really going to save the planet? After all it has coped for billions of years without us.... I'm not sure that's why many of us drink or take drugs ... 'peace' can be found without either. For my part (no drugs) I drink sometimes because I like it. Maybe my small brain is an advantage Rog ^^^ For clarity, this is my post that has apparently started four pages of occasional unpleasantness. The option 'drink or take drugs' was introduced by @bassplayer. I merely identified my vice of choice, in a self deprecating way. This is my post that Telemachus and lollygagger have taken objection to and taken all manner of inferences from. Can I reiterate that I meant what I wrote ... nothing more ... nothing less . I'm happy to discuss what someone may have inferred from my post but I refuse to accept being TOLD what I meant. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 10:03:03 GMT
Well that trashed @bassplayer 's philosophical thread ... perhaps now is a good moment to reiterate that I occasionally drink (not drugs) because I enjoy it, not to 'find peace' ... and I do not mean to imply anything other than what I wrote. I was curious what @bassplayer meant by 'peace' ... but I guess I'm unlikely to find out now Rog Hopefully this might clarify what I meant... My mind has always raced and I find alcohol helps give me some peace by dumbing my brain down a bit. Any substance, regardless of label, which is consumed to alter our natural mental or physical nature could be regarded a drug. Back in the late 70s/80s I found an official document in a bookshop which tried to give star ratings for the potency of different drugs. If I remember correctly, cannabis was 2 stars along with caffeine, alcohol was 3 or 4 stars but I remember it saying that mixing cannabis with alcohol was particularly bad. Heroin was 5 stars. As I have said before, if you can enjoy life to it's full without taking any 'drug' or mind altering substance, you are a better person than me.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 19, 2021 10:04:34 GMT
I'm not sure that's why many of us drink or take drugs ... 'peace' can be found without either. For my part (no drugs) I drink sometimes because I like it. Maybe my small brain is an advantage Rog ^^^ For clarity, this is my post that has apparently started four pages of occasional unpleasantness. The option 'drink or take drugs' was introduced by @bassplayer . I merely identified my vice of choice, in a self deprecating way. This is my post that Telemachus and lollygagger have taken objection to and taken all manner of inferences from. Can I reiterate that I meant what I wrote ... nothing more ... nothing less . I'm happy to discuss what someone may have inferred from my post but I refuse to accept being TOLD what I meant. Rog But what DID you mean? Did you mean that you don’t think alcohol is a drug? Simple question! A simple answer would resolve the point.
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Post by JohnV on Jan 19, 2021 10:05:39 GMT
FFS
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 10:14:08 GMT
No one's a better person @bassplayer ... that's too self deprecating even for me I like my life ... I don't mean to be virtuous or superior I'm just stating a fact. I've been immensely fortunate in my partner, and we have always had clear dreams and goals we worked towards ... some we've had to abandon, some we've happily acheived. We both enjoy exercise and the feeling of well being that promotes ... perhaps we're addicted to endorphins I have always tried hard to not concern myself with 'stuff' I cannot control, which I consider to be a good habit. Perhaps it's the nature of bass players to focus on individual parts, rather than the 'ensemble' ? Rog
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Post by patty on Jan 19, 2021 10:27:20 GMT
Well that trashed @bassplayer 's philosophical thread ... perhaps now is a good moment to reiterate that I occasionally drink (not drugs) because I enjoy it, not to 'find peace' ... and I do not mean to imply anything other than what I wrote. I was curious what @bassplayer meant by 'peace' ... but I guess I'm unlikely to find out now Rog Hopefully this might clarify what I meant... My mind has always raced and I find alcohol helps give me some peace by dumbing my brain down a bit. Any substance, regardless of label, which is consumed to alter our natural mental or physical nature could be regarded a drug. Back in the late 70s/80s I found an official document in a bookshop which tried to give star ratings for the potency of different drugs. If I remember correctly, cannabis was 2 stars along with caffeine, alcohol was 3 or 4 stars but I remember it saying that mixing cannabis with alcohol was particularly bad. Heroin was 5 stars. As I have said before, if you can enjoy life to it's full without taking any 'drug' or mind altering substance, you are a better person than me. I find vino to be a relaxant as was valium and a few others of similar ilk prescribed during a rather chaotic time mentally For what its worth I see alcohol as a substance as is anything that alters your mindset emotionally. Perhaps there are those who are not significantly affected by alcohol and therefor do not see its mind enhancing properties. I am a bit of a lightweight in that small doses of any drug can be excessive... When Drs were attempting to find something to 'switch off' or 'dampen down' the extreme 'live' super speed up and downs they soon discovered normal doses just too much Ended up with geriatric dose of an old style drug...which I subsequently went cold turkey off with fairly disastrous consequences... As for alcohol..one glass of vino calms anxiety so really for me it has the same effect as 'drugs'...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 10:35:00 GMT
Perhaps it's the nature of bass players to focus on individual parts, rather than the 'ensemble' ? Rog I think many musicians when they start out do that, but as you get more into it over the years the band gets better and more in harmony when we listen to the whole thing, not just what we're playing. Teamwork! I mean look how much we are in harmony with this thread....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 10:38:44 GMT
Hopefully this might clarify what I meant... My mind has always raced and I find alcohol helps give me some peace by dumbing my brain down a bit. Any substance, regardless of label, which is consumed to alter our natural mental or physical nature could be regarded a drug. Back in the late 70s/80s I found an official document in a bookshop which tried to give star ratings for the potency of different drugs. If I remember correctly, cannabis was 2 stars along with caffeine, alcohol was 3 or 4 stars but I remember it saying that mixing cannabis with alcohol was particularly bad. Heroin was 5 stars. As I have said before, if you can enjoy life to it's full without taking any 'drug' or mind altering substance, you are a better person than me. I find vino to be a relaxant as was valium and a few others of similar ilk prescribed during a rather chaotic time mentally For what its worth I see alcohol as a substance as is anything that alters your mindset emotionally. Perhaps there are those who are not significantly affected by alcohol and therefor do not see its mind enhancing properties. I am a bit of a lightweight in that small doses of any drug can be excessive... When Drs were attempting to find something to 'switch off' or 'dampen down' the extreme 'live' super speed up and downs they soon discovered normal doses just too much Ended up with geriatric dose of an old style drug...which I subsequently went cold turkey off with fairly disastrous consequences... As for alcohol..one glass of vino calms anxiety so really for me it has the same effect as 'drugs'... Well as they say..everything in moderation. Even Jesus was partial to a bit of wine, he must have been a bit stressed at times.
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Post by lollygagger on Jan 19, 2021 11:07:45 GMT
I'm not sure that's why many of us drink or take drugs ... 'peace' can be found without either. For my part (no drugs) I drink sometimes because I like it. Maybe my small brain is an advantage Rog ^^^ For clarity, this is my post that has apparently started four pages of occasional unpleasantness. The option 'drink or take drugs' was introduced by @bassplayer . I merely identified my vice of choice, in a self deprecating way. This is my post that Telemachus and lollygagger have taken objection to and taken all manner of inferences from. Can I reiterate that I meant what I wrote ... nothing more ... nothing less . I'm happy to discuss what someone may have inferred from my post but I refuse to accept being TOLD what I meant. Rog I hope I've avoided the unpleasantness, I've tried to! Nor have I objected to anything as far as I remember! It's a discussion - you type something, others respond to what you typed. We know that how we read things is not necessarily exactly what is meant hence our seeking clarification. Nobody is telling you what you meant or inferring anything, we are saying how your words plainly read, pointing out the contradiction and asking what you meant. From your reluctance to answer that simple direct question, one can only assume you are unable or unwilling to understand that alcohol is a drug. That's puzzling, but it's your choice I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 11:11:45 GMT
My point is that when you virtuously proclaim that you don’t do drugs, you are kidding yourself. Tell him Nick! I don't drink but I smoke the odd bifta...because in Rog's words I like it. I could feel morally and socially superior to alcohol users because my choice drug doesn't encourage violence, overdosing, throwing up in the street, death or any other attribute associated with alcohol but unlike Rog I know what I know from direct experience and don't feel the need to draw that distinction to make me feel better about being a drug user. So this was a question was it ? Your first post on the issue. Rog
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Post by Trina on Jan 19, 2021 11:16:12 GMT
My name is Trina(well,Katrina actually)& I like a drink ! Just to clarify,alcoholic type drinks.I know alcohol is a drug,but when the word drugs is mentioned,I tend to think of all the illegal drugs rather than alcohol or tobacco.Just my personal thoughts...
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