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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 27, 2024 16:57:25 GMT
That is a possibility but also pure speculation. Also, if you're going to be honest with yourself for a moment and assuming such advice was given, I'm sure you would be forced to admit it's good advice. BTW, only a few posts back you asserted such a document didn't exist. Make your mind up. Nonsense, . . no speculation involved. It's known for a fact that Sharpness Shipyard proprietor S. Beacham, the supposed "new owner" of "Planet", told the ship's true/rightful owner, Alan Roberts, a pack of lies about the circumstances under which the ship ended up in his possession in Sharpness on two separate occasions, . . because both conversations were recorded and transcribed. In the first conversation, recorded in the presence of an on duty Police officer attending an attempted lawful repossession of the ship by the true owner on 23 April 2017, Beacham insisted that the ship had merely been left in his care, on C&RT's instructions, by the "Bailiffs" who had "arrested" it, . . and that as he was -"just looking after it"- and - believed -"it had now been sold [by C&RT]"- any matters pertaining to ship would have to be referred back to the C&RT. Subsequent to the 23 April 2017 denials that he was anything more than the ship's 'caretaker', Beacham stated in an interview, broadcast on BBC Radio Merseyside, that he had bought "Planet" from the C&RT in early April -- some ten days BEFORE he had stated in the 23 April 2017 transcribed recording, that he merely "believed" that the "arrested" ship had been "sold" by the C&RT. Some months later, during another recorded and transcribed conversation in the shipyard office at Sharpness, Beacham told Alan Roberts that he now owned "Planet", and agreed that he would provide a copy of the C&RT Bill of Sale to prove it. That was getting on for nearly 4 years ago, . . and despite numerous reminders and repeat requests to Beacham for the promised copy of the Bill of Sale, Alan Roberts is still waiting for it. Keeping in mind that C&RT publicly stated the supposed 'selling' price of "Planet" to be £12,500 - around one sixth of the 19 September 2016 Survey Report scrap value - Beacham's conduct, to say nothing of the apparent inability to produce a copy of the Bill of Sale he says he has, does NOT come across as that of someone who believes that he's bought something via a legitimate, all above board deal, . . and has nothing to hide. Seven and a half years on, . . and the ex-Liverpool Bar Lightship LV23 'Planet', stolen from its owner by the Canal & River Trust [C&RT] in September 2016, still languishes in Sharpness Docks, . . with the C&RT still paying the ship's berthing charges to the Port operators. The berthing fees/charges were in the region of £1000.00/month back in 2017, so allowing for inflation they're probably getting for at least half as much again by now. Add to that running total, the cost of setting up and accomplishing the planned theft of the ship in the guise of a legitimate commercial debt recovery and breach of contract process, then towing the ship from Liverpool to Sharpness, . . the total cost of the C&RT's theft of LV23 'Planet' must now be approaching the £500,000 mark. Of all C&RT's ongoing boat stealing scams, this one has to be the most expensive and ill-conceived so far, and is unlikely ever to be exceeded, . . although the crooks behind it, the same gang of lying corrupt managers, crooked contractors, and bent lawyers continue with similar but smaller scale and somewhat better planned boat seizing/stealing scams to this day.
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Post by on Apr 27, 2024 18:42:24 GMT
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 27, 2024 19:23:26 GMT
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 27, 2024 19:49:43 GMT
That is a possibility but also pure speculation. Also, if you're going to be honest with yourself for a moment and assuming such advice was given, I'm sure you would be forced to admit it's good advice. BTW, only a few posts back you asserted such a document didn't exist. Make your mind up. Nonsense, . . no speculation involved. It's known for a fact that Sharpness Shipyard proprietor S. Beacham, the supposed "new owner" of "Planet", told the ship's true/rightful owner, Alan Roberts, a pack of lies about the circumstances under which the ship ended up in his possession in Sharpness on two separate occasions, . . because both conversations were recorded and transcribed. In the first conversation, recorded in the presence of an on duty Police officer attending an attempted lawful repossession of the ship by the true owner on 23 April 2017, Beacham insisted that the ship had merely been left in his care, on C&RT's instructions, by the "Bailiffs" who had "arrested" it, . . and that as he was -"just looking after it"- and - believed -"it had now been sold [by C&RT]"- any matters pertaining to ship would have to be referred back to the C&RT. Subsequent to the 23 April 2017 denials that he was anything more than the ship's 'caretaker', Beacham stated in an interview, broadcast on BBC Radio Merseyside, that he had bought "Planet" from the C&RT in early April -- some ten days BEFORE he had stated in the 23 April 2017 transcribed recording, that he merely "believed" that the "arrested" ship had been "sold" by the C&RT. Some months later, during another recorded and transcribed conversation in the shipyard office at Sharpness, Beacham told Alan Roberts that he now owned "Planet", and agreed that he would provide a copy of the C&RT Bill of Sale to prove it. That was getting on for nearly 4 years ago, . . and despite numerous reminders and repeat requests to Beacham for the promised copy of the Bill of Sale, Alan Roberts is still waiting for it. Keeping in mind that C&RT publicly stated the supposed 'selling' price of "Planet" to be £12,500 - around one sixth of the 19 September 2016 Survey Report scrap value - Beacham's conduct, to say nothing of the apparent inability to produce a copy of the Bill of Sale he says he has, does NOT come across as that of someone who believes that he's bought something via a legitimate, all above board deal, . . and has nothing to hide. Seven and a half years on, . . and the ex-Liverpool Bar Lightship LV23 'Planet', stolen from its owner by the Canal & River Trust [C&RT] in September 2016, still languishes in Sharpness Docks, . . with the C&RT still paying the ship's berthing charges to the Port operators. The berthing fees/charges were in the region of £1000.00/month back in 2017, so allowing for inflation they're probably getting for at least half as much again by now. Add to that running total, the cost of setting up and accomplishing the planned theft of the ship in the guise of a legitimate commercial debt recovery and breach of contract process, then towing the ship from Liverpool to Sharpness, . . the total cost of the C&RT's theft of LV23 'Planet' must now be approaching the £500,000 mark. Of all C&RT's ongoing boat stealing scams, this one has to be the most expensive and ill-conceived so far, and is unlikely ever to be exceeded, . . although the crooks behind it, the same gang of lying corrupt managers, crooked contractors, and bent lawyers continue with similar but smaller scale and somewhat better planned boat seizing/stealing scams to this day.
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Post by on Apr 27, 2024 19:55:23 GMT
Oh yes the old Thames Refinery. I wonder how many people listening to their marine VHF sets in London on Ch14 think that a reference to the Thames Refinery means an oil tanker is around. It doesn't. It means there is a sugar Boat.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 28, 2024 8:38:09 GMT
That is a possibility but also pure speculation. Also, if you're going to be honest with yourself for a moment and assuming such advice was given, I'm sure you would be forced to admit it's good advice. BTW, only a few posts back you asserted such a document didn't exist. Make your mind up. Nonsense, . . no speculation involved. It's known for a fact that Sharpness Shipyard proprietor S. Beacham, the falsely proclaimed "new owner" of "Planet", told the ship's true/rightful owner, Alan Roberts, a pack of lies about the circumstances under which the ship ended up in his possession in Sharpness on two separate occasions, . . because both conversations were recorded and transcribed.In the first conversation, recorded in the presence of an on duty Police officer attending an attempted lawful repossession of the ship by the true owner on 23 April 2017, Beacham insisted that the ship had merely been left in his care, on C&RT's instructions, by the "Bailiffs" who had "arrested" it, . . and that as he was -"just looking after it"- and - believed -"it had now been sold [by C&RT]"- any matters pertaining to ship would have to be referred back to the C&RT. Subsequent to the 23 April 2017 denials that he was anything more than the ship's 'caretaker', Beacham stated in an interview, broadcast on BBC Radio Merseyside, that he had bought "Planet" from the C&RT in early April -- some ten days BEFORE he had stated in the 23 April 2017 transcribed recording, that he merely "believed" that the "arrested" ship had been "sold" by the C&RT. Some months later, during another recorded and transcribed conversation in the shipyard office at Sharpness, Beacham told Alan Roberts that he now owned "Planet", and agreed that he would provide a copy of the C&RT Bill of Sale to prove it. That was getting on for nearly 4 years ago, . . and despite numerous reminders and repeat requests to Beacham for the promised copy of the Bill of Sale, Alan Roberts is still waiting for it.Keeping in mind that C&RT publicly stated the supposed 'selling' price of "Planet" to be £12,500 - around one sixth of the 19 September 2016 Survey Report scrap value - Beacham's conduct, to say nothing of the apparent inability to produce a copy of the Bill of Sale he says he has, does NOT come across as that of someone who believes that he's bought something via a legitimate, all above board deal, . . and has nothing to hide. Seven and a half years on, . . and the ex-Liverpool Bar Lightship LV23 'Planet', stolen from its owner by the Canal & River Trust [C&RT] in September 2016, still languishes in Sharpness Docks, . . with the C&RT still paying the ship's berthing charges to the Port operators.
The berthing fees/charges were in the region of £1000.00/month back in 2017, so allowing for inflation they're probably getting for at least half as much again by now. Add to that running total, the cost of setting up and accomplishing the planned theft of the ship in the guise of a legitimate commercial debt recovery and breach of contract process, then towing the ship from Liverpool to Sharpness, . . the total cost of the C&RT's theft of LV23 'Planet' must now be approaching the £500,000 mark.
Of all C&RT's ongoing boat stealing scams, this one has to be the most expensive and ill-conceived so far, and is unlikely ever to be eclipsed, . . although the crooks behind it, the same gang of lying corrupt managers, crooked contractors, and bent lawyers continue with similar but smaller scale and somewhat better planned boat seizing/stealing scams to this day.
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Post by Jim on Apr 28, 2024 8:52:14 GMT
OOh Black Treacle! Dangerous stuff, it can unexpectedly go BOOM.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 28, 2024 8:59:12 GMT
That is a possibility but also pure speculation. Also, if you're going to be honest with yourself for a moment and assuming such advice was given, I'm sure you would be forced to admit it's good advice. BTW, only a few posts back you asserted such a document didn't exist. Make your mind up. Nonsense, . . no speculation involved. It's known for a fact that Sharpness Shipyard proprietor S. Beacham, the supposed "new owner" of "Planet", told the ship's true/rightful owner, Alan Roberts, a pack of lies about the circumstances under which the ship ended up in his possession in Sharpness on two separate occasions, . . because both conversations were recorded and transcribed.In the first conversation, recorded in the presence of an on duty Police officer attending an attempted lawful repossession of the ship by the true owner on 23 April 2017, Beacham insisted that the ship had merely been left in his care, on C&RT's instructions, by the "Bailiffs" who had "arrested" it, . . and that as he was -"just looking after it"- and - believed -"it had now been sold [by C&RT]"- any matters pertaining to ship would have to be referred back to the C&RT. Subsequent to the 23 April 2017 denials that he was anything more than the ship's 'caretaker', Beacham stated in an interview, broadcast on BBC Radio Merseyside, that he had bought "Planet" from the C&RT in early April -- some ten days BEFORE he had stated in the 23 April 2017 transcribed recording, that he merely "believed" that the "arrested" ship had been "sold" by the C&RT. S ome months later, during another recorded and transcribed conversation in the shipyard office at Sharpness, Beacham told Alan Roberts that he now owned "Planet", and agreed that he would provide a copy of the C&RT Bill of Sale to prove it. That was getting on for nearly 4 years ago, . . and despite numerous reminders and repeat requests to Beacham for the promised copy of the Bill of Sale, Alan Roberts is still waiting for it.Keeping in mind that C&RT publicly stated the supposed 'selling' price of "Planet" to be £12,500 - around one sixth of the 19 September 2016 Survey Report scrap value - Beacham's conduct, to say nothing of the apparent inability to produce a copy of the Bill of Sale he says he has, does NOT come across as that of someone who believes that he's bought something via a legitimate, all above board deal, . . and has nothing to hide. Seven and a half years on, . . and the ex-Liverpool Bar Lightship LV23 'Planet', stolen from its owner by the Canal & River Trust [C&RT] in September 2016, still languishes in Sharpness Docks, . . with the C&RT still paying the ship's berthing charges to the Port operators.
The berthing fees/charges were in the region of £1000.00/month back in 2017, so allowing for inflation they're probably getting for at least half as much again by now. Add to that running total, the cost of setting up and accomplishing the planned theft of the ship in the guise of a legitimate commercial debt recovery and breach of contract process, then towing the ship from Liverpool to Sharpness, . . the total cost of the C&RT's theft of LV23 'Planet' must now be approaching the £500,000 mark.
Of all C&RT's ongoing boat stealing scams, this one has to be the most expensive and ill-conceived so far, and is unlikely ever to be eclipsed, . . although the crooks behind it, the same gang of lying corrupt managers, crooked contractors, and bent lawyers continue with similar but smaller scale and somewhat better planned boat seizing/stealing scams to this day.
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Post by Jim on Apr 28, 2024 9:04:46 GMT
The solution for the little man with no means to challenge the beast has been here all along, popping up as an advert on tb, a Free Trial Go Tony Go Tony. Please!
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 28, 2024 12:15:13 GMT
See posts :- thunderboat.boards.net/post/396344/thread -and- thunderboat.boards.net/post/396531/thread
It's remarkable but unsurprising how, amid the small number of internet trolls that blight this forum, the ability to read and understand plain written English appears to be an inversely proportional function of the frequency, rapidity of reponse, and seriousness of the specifically targeted on-line stalking activities that accompany, and result from, the constant close monitoring of any and all the content I post on the Thunderboat forum. ___________________________________________________ Extracts from :- thunderboat.boards.net/post/396344/thread :- 5.The Protection from Harassment Act 1997 (see Annex B) includes the following non-exhaustive list of examples of ‘acts or omissions associated with stalking’: ___________________________________________________ c) publishing any statement or other material - relating or purporting to relate to a person, or purporting to originate from a person, d) monitoring the use by a person of the internet, email or any other form of electronic communication, ________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Full text of the 1997 Act, available via this link :- www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/40/contentsIf the very small number of offending forum members who are routinely committing either or both of the offences highlighted above wish to avoid prosecution under the provisions of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997, they must refrain from adding to their existing Police file record (saved screenshots) of past offences, and cease committing any further offences of the same nature. I have no objection, and nor will any Police or other action be taken against these offending forum members, if in future they cease the wilful targeted trollng of the posts I make and/or the topics/threads I have initiated, and confine their off-subject nuisance posting and trolling content to their own self-originated selection of pointless claptrap laden topics/threads from which they obviously gain so much mindless pleasure and infantile satisfaction.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 28, 2024 12:22:03 GMT
That is a possibility but also pure speculation. Also, if you're going to be honest with yourself for a moment and assuming such advice was given, I'm sure you would be forced to admit it's good advice. BTW, only a few posts back you asserted such a document didn't exist. Make your mind up. Nonsense, . . no speculation involved. It's known for a fact that Sharpness Shipyard proprietor S. Beacham, the supposed "new owner" of "Planet", told the ship's true/rightful owner, Alan Roberts, a pack of lies about the circumstances under which the ship ended up in his possession in Sharpness on two separate occasions, . . because both conversations were recorded and transcribed.In the first conversation, recorded in the presence of an on duty Police officer attending an attempted lawful repossession of the ship by the true owner on 23 April 2017, Beacham insisted that the ship had merely been left in his care, on C&RT's instructions, by the "Bailiffs" who had "arrested" it, . . and that as he was -"just looking after it"- and - believed -"it had now been sold [by C&RT]"- any matters pertaining to ship would have to be referred back to the C&RT. Subsequent to the 23 April 2017 denials that he was anything more than the ship's 'caretaker', Beacham stated in an interview, broadcast on BBC Radio Merseyside, that he had bought "Planet" from the C&RT in early April -- some ten days BEFORE he had stated in the 23 April 2017 transcribed recording, that he merely "believed" that the "arrested" ship had been "sold" by the C&RT. Some months later, during another recorded and transcribed conversation in the shipyard office at Sharpness, Beacham told Alan Roberts that he now owned "Planet", and agreed that he would provide a copy of the C&RT Bill of Sale to prove it. That was getting on for nearly 4 years ago, . . and despite numerous reminders and repeat requests to Beacham for the promised copy of the Bill of Sale, Alan Roberts is still waiting for it.Keeping in mind that C&RT publicly stated the supposed 'selling' price of "Planet" to be £12,500 - around one sixth of the 19 September 2016 Survey Report scrap value - Beacham's conduct, to say nothing of the apparent inability to produce a copy of the Bill of Sale he says he has, does NOT come across as that of someone who believes that he's bought something via a legitimate, all above board deal, . . and has nothing to hide. Seven and a half years on, . . and the ex-Liverpool Bar Lightship LV23 'Planet', stolen from its owner by the Canal & River Trust [C&RT] in September 2016, still languishes in Sharpness Docks, . . with the C&RT still paying the ship's berthing charges to the Port operators.
The berthing fees/charges were in the region of £1000.00/month back in 2017, so allowing for inflation they're probably getting for at least half as much again by now. Add to that running total, the cost of setting up and accomplishing the planned theft of the ship in the guise of a legitimate commercial debt recovery and breach of contract process, then towing the ship from Liverpool to Sharpness, . . the total cost of the C&RT's theft of LV23 'Planet' must now be approaching the £500,000 mark.
Of all C&RT's ongoing boat stealing scams, this one has to be the most expensive and ill-conceived so far, and is unlikely ever to be eclipsed, . . although the crooks behind it, the same gang of lying corrupt managers, crooked contractors, and bent lawyers continue with similar but smaller scale and somewhat better planned boat seizing/stealing scams to this day.
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Post by dyertribe on Apr 28, 2024 21:49:32 GMT
I'd go for some sort of home made mousse-the dead simple kind using jelly,fruit & condensed milk.They always turn out yummy. I always thought that was my Mum's own invention🤫! (We used evaporated milk, which I still like poured over steaming hot fruit crumble.) I love evaporated milk! Used to make a lemon cheesecake with Philadelphia cheese, evaporated milk and lemon jelly on a biscuit base.
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Post by Trina on Apr 28, 2024 21:59:23 GMT
Think I confused condensed with evap 🤦🏻♀️! My Polish dad adored Carnation evap ! He even loved it in coffee 🥴.His fave were the boxes of individual fruit pies or doughnuts with evap poured over the top.
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 28, 2024 22:01:51 GMT
Think I confused condensed with evap 🤦🏻♀️! My Polish dad adored Carnation evap ! He even loved it in coffee 🥴.His fave were the boxes of individual fruit pies or doughnuts with evap poured ovet the top. This does beg the question ... are most TB members of the evaporated or condensed varieties?
I refer to their brains, of course.
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Post by dogless on Apr 28, 2024 22:04:03 GMT
Think I confused condensed with evap 🤦🏻♀️! My Polish dad adored Carnation evap ! He even loved it in coffee 🥴.His fave were the boxes of individual fruit pies or doughnuts with evap poured ovet the top. This does beg the question ... are most TB members of the evaporated or condensed varieties?
I refer to their brains, of course.
I like to think more well preserved. Rog
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