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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 12:41:37 GMT
Indeed it did, I queried that when I first noticed it on my policy and was told that it doesn't apply to inland boating it's there to stop people crossing the channel or similar at night with only one crew so no lookout. I asked them to confirm it in writing which they did but I can't find it now as it was 20+ years ago when I had the barge. Now I have a narrowboat there is no Endorsement 9 only 1-6 😉 After reading your post, I went back to the documentation to see if I was reading the one for the barge ........ but I wasn't !
It's the certificate for the 25.5' ft narrowbeam cruiser !!! That will be a cruiser policy😉 different from a narrowboat policy, just as the barge one is different again. 😎
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 17, 2021 12:50:54 GMT
The circumstances under which the damage to the boat came about will also come under scrutiny by the insurers. They will NOT look kindly on the fact that it occurred whilst the boat was being single-handed through locks in the dark. The usual twaddle from the Forum Cabbage. The canal network is open 24 hours a day and unless there is a clause in the T&Cs prohibiting navigation during the hours of darkness, "looking kindly" at a claim doesn't begin to come into it. Recorded and added to the rest.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 12:51:41 GMT
Socks made it abuntantly clear that she was seeking help from a professional with insurance cover, so as well meaning as anyones offer was, it would likely have been refused. Though I am far from certain she had any offers of physical help from members of either of the forums anyway. Someone else who hasn't spotted this at the bottom of all my posts : - A.K.DUNKLEY - Commercial Vessel Operators & Marine Engineers Are you one of the extraordinarily large proportion of contributing Thunderboat members who really should train their guide dogs to do their posting for them, . . or was simply that you didn't notice it ? Oh dear Mr Dunkley. I fear another apology may be in your near future. If your grasp of modern technology was as advanced as you lead us to believe your mechanical knowledge is, you would know that posting on a mobile device, such that I do, give a different look to the forum than you may be seeing. Besides, if socks is anything like me, you would be the last person on the planet I would let touch my boat. Although your mechanical knowledge is second to none, your people skills as demonstrated on the forum leave a lot to be desired. It is for that reason only I would not want to get involved with you on a professional level
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 17, 2021 12:59:34 GMT
Someone else who hasn't spotted this at the bottom of all my posts : - A.K.DUNKLEY - Commercial Vessel Operators & Marine Engineers Are you one of the extraordinarily large proportion of contributing Thunderboat members who really should train their guide dogs to do their posting for them, . . or was simply that you didn't notice it ? Oh dear Mr Dunkley. I fear another apology may be in your near future. If your grasp of modern technology was as advanced as you lead us to believe your mechanical knowledge is, you would know that posting on a mobile device, such that I do, give a different look to the forum than you may be seeing. Besides, if socks is anything like me, you would be the last person on the planet I would let touch my boat. Although your mechanical knowledge is second to none, your people skills as demonstrated on the forum leave a lot to be desired. It is for that reason only I would not want to get involved with you on a professional level It sounds as if socks is quite a lot like you, . . or vice versa !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 13:04:59 GMT
Oh dear Mr Dunkley. I fear another apology may be in your near future. If your grasp of modern technology was as advanced as you lead us to believe your mechanical knowledge is, you would know that posting on a mobile device, such that I do, give a different look to the forum than you may be seeing. Besides, if socks is anything like me, you would be the last person on the planet I would let touch my boat. Although your mechanical knowledge is second to none, your people skills as demonstrated on the forum leave a lot to be desired. It is for that reason only I would not want to get involved with you on a professional level It sounds as if socks is quite a lot like you, . . or vice versa ! Funny looking apology. I accept (again)
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 17, 2021 13:09:10 GMT
No doubt it was, inside your tunnel (mental or physical). But as I pointed out, "dark" is not relevant and not defined. "Night" is relevant and defined as per my previous. Well, relevant if it was a condition of Sock's policy, which it probably wasn't.
And anyway, without specifiying where "here" is your post remains meaningless. Or maybe you didn't realise that night falls at different times according to where you are on the planet. Or even where you are within this country. you are being sarcastic without being sure of your facts.
Very interesting. But not relevant to the definition of night. And as your web link shows, there are multiple definitions of “daylight hours” according to which bit of legislation you are looking at.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 17, 2021 13:13:46 GMT
Maybe you need your cataracts sorting? it’s broad daylight at 5 minutes past sunset. It’s dark in a tunnel, does that mean insurance companies don’t allow single handed tunnel passage? I think you need to pause and consider the difference between dark and night. Not suffering from cataracts, I manage to land my glider without instrument or external lights, on an unlit airfield, 25 minutes after sunset. Does that make me some kind of superhuman hero? Probably not. Last night was dark well before sunset, in fact it was that cloudy and rainy you couldnt see the sun from 2 ish onwards. My policy with Craftinsure doesnt allow single handed cruising in the dark same as others, I was surprised to find this out if I am honest
You too are confusing “dark” with “night”
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 17, 2021 13:15:15 GMT
It’s easy to see why people don’t bother to post on here. Too many stupid people with stupid and fallacious arguments, and who like to argue just for the sake of it without any rationale. It’s pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 13:17:30 GMT
It’s easy to see why people don’t bother to post on here. Too many stupid people with stupid and fallacious arguments, and who like to argue just for the sake of it without any rationale. It’s pathetic. Sorry. I just can't help it.
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Post by JohnV on Nov 17, 2021 13:31:38 GMT
It’s easy to see why people don’t bother to post on here. Too many stupid people with stupid and fallacious arguments, and who like to argue just for the sake of it without any rationale. It’s pathetic.
Sometimes you just argue because you like to argue, today seems one of those days.
You sometimes remind me of another poster on CWDF that frequently did that
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 13:43:47 GMT
Socks made it abuntantly clear that she was seeking help from a professional with insurance cover, so as well meaning as anyones offer was, it would likely have been refused. Though I am far from certain she had any offers of physical help from members of either of the forums anyway. Someone else who hasn't spotted this at the bottom of all my posts : - A.K.DUNKLEY - Commercial Vessel Operators & Marine Engineers Are you one of the extraordinarily large proportion of contributing Thunderboat members who really should train their guide dogs to do their posting for them, . . or was simply that you didn't notice it ? So, just for clarity Tony, are you witterings on this forum your professional opinions fully backed up by your insurance cover, or just the musings of a grumpy old man who has nothing better to do, or perhaps they are one and the same thing as your personal opinion? I did ask my guide dog to comment, but all he could do was wag his tail in the direction of your (assuming it is Tony Dunkley) profile comment: "Nothing I say is incorrect, untrue or libellous - no alternative opinions or views acceptable !" Yes, I did have to log into a computer to access that information. How very 1990's PS. Please don't reply if you will be sending me a bill.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 13:48:07 GMT
I, on the other hand am pretty stupid. Anyone who spends such an inordinate amount of time on the internet on such a lovely day, arguing with grumpy people ain't quite right.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 14:03:46 GMT
I always fancied a night vision apparatus when doing locks in the dark.
Big hater of lights but a headset would be wicked.
Not that expensive it seems around £150.
I guess it just an ir cctv camera and a screen.
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Post by Andyberg on Nov 17, 2021 14:07:48 GMT
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Post by kris on Nov 17, 2021 14:53:29 GMT
I have an inkling of what TD may feel like and why he reacted as he did in this topic and as far as I am concerned some of the OP's posts to people trying to help her in the other place illustrates it very well. When you have the knowledge that may help someone and offer that knowledge but find it is curtly dismissed/ignored or meets a refusal to look further into a problem then it gets very frustrating and all too easily encourages a response that later one may regret. In this case, although putting the boat in a small pound and draining it to see what had happened was probably good advice if the person was fit and practical, giving it in this case with the history of the OP from both places meant it was almost guaranteed to be ignored and with good reason I would suggest. If it were my boat I would first be having a good feel through the weed hatch to see if I could feel anything and if not, even at this time of year, would probably got some old cloths on and got in with the boat providing I had easy exit from the canal but there is no way I would suggest that to the OP because I would expect a very negative response from many posters, as it should be. I 'reacted' by continuing to try to help, . . despite it being against my better judgement, and instincts ! I don't know what your reaction will be, but have you seen what's been posted on CWDF about what YOU have suggested she should do ? It's about halfway down page 2 of the relevant thread -- posted earlier today : - "The ramshead is not like that, there is no sign of a nut or bolt at the top, and it is square not cylindrical.
My post on here is asking about a tow btw, so far not seen a boat for a week, and the weather is perfect.
I have left the other forum due to the aggression shown by Dunkley, he has spent a lot of time disparaging my own decisions, those of the engineer, the CRT, the marina. He has not seen the boat, he has not been to fix it, I don't think he would be insured. I would have difficulty working with anyone with his level of aggression.
I asked him to modify his postings, and in the end to stop posting. That did not stop him
I am aware that there could have been a repair before I got the boat, if so, I tested it to destruction 😑
It's pointless to speculate any further getting the thing repaired economically but also properly is the thing. I would like to put a new ramshead,, such as those in the green photo, I have tried to discuss this with Tyler Wilson in Sheffield, they are just not interested.
I am waiting for things to come together, metaphorically and physically.
Tony Brooks suggested I go in the water, I would struggle to get out. The tiller rotates 360, freely, something is broke, almost certainly. I think the break is near the tiller, but I can't be sure, seems unlikely if the rudder caught on the door, as I was going up. There is nothing I can do to repair the boat. My tools are B&Q christmas set, and my engineering skills are limited. I cannot weld, I have no power tools." That seems accurate Tony, what’s your point?
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