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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 14:26:22 GMT
I find that rather hard to believe -- in fact, I don't believe it ! Did he explain what he thought was wrong and did he say why he thought it couldn't be fixed on the spot ? There is no bolt on the ramshead, the shear bolt is down at the rudder, ie underwater. He was quite optimistic till he saw it. He seems pretty experienced, phoned around to try and get a boatyard, but they are either closed or not accessible due to closures. There may be other damage, not just where the tiller stock bolts on to the rudder.... that is my understanding, I did mention getting a diver, but we are in the realms of fantasy π€ Is there a plan to get to the marina?
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2021 14:37:36 GMT
Barnoldswick (Barlick.) is a great little town to get stuck in.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 12, 2021 14:44:36 GMT
I find that rather hard to believe -- in fact, I don't believe it ! Did he explain what he thought was wrong and did he say why he thought it couldn't be fixed on the spot ? There is no bolt on the ramshead, the shear bolt is down at the rudder, ie underwater. There is no hole in the rudder tab to try to drop it. He was quite optimistic till he saw it. He seems pretty experienced, phoned around to try and get a boatyard, but they are either closed or not accessible due to closures. There may be other damage, ie not just where the tiller stock bolts on to the rudder.... that is my understanding, I did mention getting a diver, but we are in the realms of fantasy π€ For now, forget about divers or tows to somewhere where you'll have to wait for months for a lift-out with a crane. If something has broken or sheared underwater, there's a selection of short pounds - the ones you came up yesterday - that the boat can be dried out in to work on any underwater damage or breakages. The first step is to get details of the whole rudder assembly from the hull builders. Is there a hull number on a builder's plate anywhere on board, or failing that, do you you know the build date ?
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Post by Jim on Nov 12, 2021 14:55:07 GMT
There is no bolt on the ramshead, the shear bolt is down at the rudder, ie underwater. There is no hole in the rudder tab to try to drop it. He was quite optimistic till he saw it. He seems pretty experienced, phoned around to try and get a boatyard, but they are either closed or not accessible due to closures. There may be other damage, ie not just where the tiller stock bolts on to the rudder.... that is my understanding, I did mention getting a diver, but we are in the realms of fantasy π€ For now, forget about divers or tows to somewhere where you'll have to wait for months for a lift-out with a crane. If something has broken or sheared underwater, there's a selection of short pounds - the ones you came up yesterday - that the boat can be dried out in to work on any underwater damage or breakages. The first step is to get details of the whole rudder assembly from the hull builders. Is there a hull number on a builder's plate anywhere on board, or failing that, do you you know the build date ? Was thinking about this myself, I've done it in the pound my boat is moored in. Theres a tiny pound on the littleborough flight that a retired lockie told me was often used for repairs. I've also heard of boats being grounded in a staircase lock with the stern overhanging, bit of a trek to Bingley and Barry Whitelock ( or his current replacement) would probably have a thrombie. Otherwise I wonder if you could get towed to Foulridge (fulridge) moorings and talk nicely to CRT, it's on the way to Lower Park and near facilities. Just mind the cow in the tunnel.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 14:57:17 GMT
If there was a self-proclaimed expert who knew everything about inland waterways and the boats that float on them he could get in his van and go and help.
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Post by Jim on Nov 12, 2021 15:14:35 GMT
If there was a self-proclaimed expert who knew everything about inland waterways and the boats that float on them he could get in his van and go and help. In this instance he's right, it is the way it would have been done, to get repaired and on the move again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 15:16:56 GMT
If there was a self-proclaimed expert who knew everything about inland waterways and the boats that float on them he could get in his van and go and help. In this instance he's right, it is the way it would have been done, to get repaired and on the move again. I'm not disputing it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 15:38:34 GMT
ππππππππππβ€οΈ All is well π I had filled in a form online with Canal Contracting, the commercial arm of RCR Well, RCR contacted me, suggested I put in an insurance claim, and hand the job over to them. They deal with insurance companies including Craftinsure, and confident they can get the job sorted, in, well,,,,, a week was mentioned!
Best news this year, I just hope the claim goes through without a hitch, once I have a claim number I pass it on to RCR, they deal with the marina, the crane and the contractor, who is likely to be the guy who came this morning if he passes their approval, it should be a simple job. So, all I have to do is ask someone to get me to the marina, and if this proves impossible RCR will send their RIB, presumably add the cost on to the insurance claim. What could possibly go wrong,,,,, no don't answer that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 15:42:30 GMT
The thought of you wading about in mud in a drained pound didn't sound like it would fly.
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Post by Jim on Nov 12, 2021 15:46:05 GMT
The thought of you wading about in mud in a drained pound didn't sound like it would fly. Smiling sweetly and fluttering eyelashes might work!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 15:50:06 GMT
Fingers crossed @socks that the insurance works just as well when paying out, as when reminding you when to pay ... I'm sure it will Rog
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 16:36:59 GMT
Well, the reason I did not stop previously is that there are no lock landings. There is a road on one side that had a run of heavy lorries, which is why I was not willing to moor up at 4.00 Dave's right, . . first priority is to get the boat out of the lock and tied up in the summit pound. Whatever you do, DON'T stay in the lock overnight -- it's too risky. If the lock starts draining down whilst you're asleep you could well end up turning an inconvenience into a disaster.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 12, 2021 18:07:50 GMT
ππππππππππβ€οΈ All is well π I had filled in a form online with Canal Contracting, the commercial arm of RCR Well, RCR contacted me, suggested I put in an insurance claim, and hand the job over to them. They deal with insurance companies including Craftinsure, and confident they can get the job sorted, in, well,,,,, a week was mentioned! Best news this year, I just hope the claim goes through without a hitch, once I have a claim number I pass it on to RCR, they deal with the marina, the crane and the contractor, who is likely to be the guy who came this morning if he passes their approval, it should be a simple job. So, all I have to do is ask someone to get me to the marina, and if this proves impossible RCR will send their RIB, presumably add the cost on to the insurance claim. What could possibly go wrong,,,,, no don't answer that. Before going ahead with an insurance claim it would be as well to check up on a few points that RCR won't have included in their sales pitch. How much will it cost you in terms of premium loading at your next insurance renewal having put in what will be a very costly claim in total for a very minor repair, . . and if there's an excess that your policy might carry obliging you to meet a portion of the total cost of the claim ? Will your insurers meet the full cost of the claim in light of the fact that you were single-handing, and not really sure how the damage occurred ? What was the general condition of the whole rudder assembly, and in particular what condition were any sheared bolts in regarding corrosion or wastage ? Insurance companies and their Underwriters are very adept at trimming down the amounts they pay out if they possibly can, . . and very good at clawing back a good chunk of whatever they do pay out, by way of loading the next year's renewal premium.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 19:54:36 GMT
The boat was out in July, and the yard mentioned what good condition it was in, one piece of galvanic the size of a penny. It was inspected, to some extent, and wire brushed, I coated every inch myself, with three coats of two pack to ensure the best job was done. The RCR have allowed a sum to cover fixing corrosion and around on the rudder but I know it was brute force that caused the breakage. The insurance is only about half of what conventional companies charge, it is a brokerege, backed by a Lloyd's company, I have a Β£400 excess, but while the job is simple, hopefully, if I don't claim, I have to sit on the cut all winter, then pay for cranage, and the fitter, so best to bite the bullet and be back to normal. To hire a crane myself, now will be far more than Β£400. Even if one does not claim, you have to mention any incident, well at least you do with a car accident.
I just want no hassle.
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Post by dyertribe on Nov 12, 2021 21:22:17 GMT
Socks, I know we have had our differences but I have had to speak out on CWDF regarding a post which I feel was cruel and inappropriate. If you donβt feel it was an issue, good and I apologise for getting on my high horse. I still think people ought to think of the consequences before they post.
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