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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 10:31:19 GMT
As someone who has at various times in his boating life. Changed my prop in a staircase lock (Marsworth) Put the boat on a cill in order to clear the prop (Stoke Bruene top) And even blacked the boat in an empty pound whilst BW were having a two week stoppage (Winkwell) I know it can be done, however I was much younger then (mid 40's) would I do it now? NO So I empathize with socks and she has made the right decision.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 14, 2021 12:52:34 GMT
This forum becomes more of a pointless joke by the day. Does anyone ever read anything properly, . . instead of just babbling on like a bunch of daft old washer-women based on what they wrongly assume was said or proposed ? For some reason known only to themselves, Socks, and a good many others, have managed to convince themselves of the ridiculous notion that I was suggesting she dried out her boat in one of the short pounds at Barrowford and got on with the repairs herself. Fact is, that NOWHERE in this thread or anywhere else have I either said or indicated any such thing. Anyone still labouring under this misapprehension, or inclined to post anymore irrelevant tripe, would do well to take a few moments to go back a few pages and READ WHAT I ACTUALLY DID SAY, . . finishing up at this post of mine from yesterday, . . in which the pertinent wording has been enlarged for the benefit of everyone who couldn't see it before : -- < thunderboat.boards.net/post/319213/thread >
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 13:33:04 GMT
When I see an early response to my thread, I assume the response is directed at my situation. Of course boats can be dried out in pounds, engines can be lifted out at bridges, horses could still tow barges, we know that, but its not relevant today.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 13:47:21 GMT
Assumption appears to be the theme for today.
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Post by kris on Nov 14, 2021 15:39:48 GMT
No one is disputing your expertise but you are not anyway near Socks’ boat are you? So practically you are no more use than a chocolate fireguard are you? My insurance would wash their hands of and claim as I had intermingled where I should have taken and abided by professional advice.. You're all very good at making uninformed and incorrect assumptions. Where in this thread have I indicated or suggested that Socks should attempt, or even contemplate doing the repairs herself ? One of my customers used to have a boat with a Tyler built hull - like Socks's - and he e-mailed me a sketch this morning showing the main details of the rudder assembly, . . so I now know pretty much what's likely to have happened, and what's needed to fix it
I've got to go up to Liverpool and Preston sometime during the coming week, and until this morning's outburst, I was prepared to offer to call in at Barrowford on the way back and do the job, with a second visit if necessary if the job couldn't be wrapped up in one go. Despite saying that my expertise is not in question, you differentiate between my advice and what you refer to as "professional" advice. Is there any particular reason for that, . . apart from the obvious ? Well if no one else is, I’m going to have to call bulllshit on this. “I was gonna,” honestly . But I’m not going to now and I’m taking my ball away because your not playing the game I want. You think people are stupid Tony. Didn’t you say something similar to Ricco? Now remind us alll how long he waited? I can think of at least three seperate occasions when you said something similar to me. Then there would be pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse when what ever had been offered didn’t happen. Your full of shit.
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Post by Jim on Nov 14, 2021 16:50:20 GMT
This forum becomes more of a pointless joke by the day. Does anyone ever read anything properly, . . instead of just babbling on like a bunch of daft old washer-women based on what they wrongly assume was said or proposed ? For some reason known only to themselves, Socks, and a good many others, have managed to convince themselves of the ridiculous notion that I was suggesting she dried out her boat in one of the short pounds at Barrowford and got on with the repairs herself. Fact is, that NOWHERE in this thread or anywhere else have I either said or indicated any such thing. Anyone still labouring under this misapprehension, or inclined to post anymore irrelevant tripe, would do well to take a few moments to go back a few pages and READ WHAT I ACTUALLY DID SAY, . . finishing up at this post of mine from yesterday, . . in which the pertinent wording has been enlarged for the benefit of everyone who couldn't see it before : -- < thunderboat.boards.net/post/319213/thread > It may have helped if you had come up with the full details in the first place, that you were coming up north next week with your wellies and spanners. Otherwise you were just banging on, calling all and sundry, expecting @socks to find someone to help her, get down and dirty in the pound to fix it. That's a big ask if you don't know anyone nearby. But you didn't. You just enjoy being an old grumpfuttock. At the end of the day, it's her choice, her boat. I once renewed the bilge keels on my old Dawncraft 22, measured the levels in the full pound, drained it, built stone piers, filled pound, floated boat over piers, drained pound, did the job. The profile of the little pound I moor in meant that there was still sufficient depth on the towpath side for boats to go by.
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Post by rockdodger on Nov 14, 2021 17:43:31 GMT
....... One of my customers used to have a boat with a Tyler built hull - like Socks's - and he e-mailed me a sketch this morning showing the main details of the rudder assembly, . . so I now know pretty much what's likely to have happened, and what's needed to fix it....... For the sake of good order, and going on the above quoted post it would appear that the sketch of a Tyler built hull rudder assembly was sent to you free of charge. Can you post a copy of the sketch on here? It would be a great help in understanding what happened, and I have no doubt of interest to TB members and viewers who do have a Tyler built nb.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 18:06:43 GMT
The photo posted had a different ramshead design to mine, and I would say a better design. I did have a completely new bearing collar fitted three years ago, not a replacement, the boatyard did not take the boat out of the water, which mystified me tbh. I mean that there is no obvious nut holding the ramshead on. I will try to speak to Tyler Wilson, but I don't hold out much hope. The stock is in a tube underwater, which needs to be inspected for corrosion, and repaired if necessary. I assume that the bang and subsequent de linking of rudder and tiller is due to a bolt shearing. The rudder is still in the same place, ie not twisted. I will shine a torch down the stern, inside the Hull as maybe the stock goes down there, I don't know, I don't think so. The boat engineer should have picked up on that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 18:49:41 GMT
7 Pages.
Lord help the human race.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 14, 2021 21:33:41 GMT
This forum becomes more of a pointless joke by the day. Does anyone ever read anything properly, . . instead of just babbling on like a bunch of daft old washer-women based on what they wrongly assume was said or proposed ? For some reason known only to themselves, Socks, and a good many others, have managed to convince themselves of the ridiculous notion that I was suggesting she dried out her boat in one of the short pounds at Barrowford and got on with the repairs herself. Fact is, that NOWHERE in this thread or anywhere else have I either said or indicated any such thing. Anyone still labouring under this misapprehension, or inclined to post anymore irrelevant tripe, would do well to take a few moments to go back a few pages and READ WHAT I ACTUALLY DID SAY, . . finishing up at this post of mine from yesterday, . . in which the pertinent wording has been enlarged for the benefit of everyone who couldn't see it before : -- < thunderboat.boards.net/post/319213/thread > It may have helped if you had come up with the full details in the first place, that you were coming up north next week with your wellies and spanners. Otherwise you were just banging on, calling all and sundry, expecting @socks to find someone to help her, get down and dirty in the pound to fix it. That's a big ask if you don't know anyone nearby. But you didn't. You just enjoy being an old grumpfuttock. At the end of the day, it's her choice, her boat. I once renewed the bilge keels on my old Dawncraft 22, measured the levels in the full pound, drained it, built stone piers, filled pound, floated boat over piers, drained pound, did the job. The profile of the little pound I moor in meant that there was still sufficient depth on the towpath side for boats to go by. The tripe that Jim has posted is in fact a perfect example of what I was talking about IN THAT POST OF MINE THAT HE'S QUOTED. So, well done to him, and thanks for confirming my view that Thunderboat has become a pointless joke of a forum, in much the manner of CWDF, where most of the active members are so anxious to publish their worthless opinions that they don't take the trouble properly to read or understand what they're replying to first. Many, most, of TB's active members would do themselves a big favour by trying out a revolutionary new approach to posting. Something along these lines :-- 1) Engage brain -- 2) Read the post you want to reply to -- 3) Check that brain is still engaged, and that you have actually understood what you've read -- 4) Post reply.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 21:54:29 GMT
It was good of you to respond to @socks plea for help and to support @twerp 's good advice to get out of the lock. @socks took @twerp 's advice and has since arranged for appropriate assistance. That is @socks decision and we should respect it ... to continue to criticise @socks choices is unnecessary and looks churlish and petty ... Violet Elizabeth ish Whilst I'm sure you don't care, lashing out at everyone's not a great look Rog
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Post by Trina on Nov 14, 2021 22:00:40 GMT
If it's that bad here,why don't you just bugger off ? You moan about the place,but you keep on reading & posting...Doesn't that make you a total prat/plonker/twat etc ? In other words,just as bad as the folk you bad-mouth. Signed,Trina the Noddy Boater.😁
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 14, 2021 22:01:56 GMT
It was good of you to respond to @socks plea for help and to support @twerp 's good advice to get out of the lock. @socks took @twerp 's advice and has since arranged for appropriate assistance. That is @socks decision and we should respect it ... to continue to criticise @socks choices is unnecessary and looks churlish and petty ... Violet Elizabeth ish Whilst I'm sure you don't care, lashing out at everyone's not a great look Rog Right on cue, . . here's another fine example of exactly what I was referring to in the post immediately above it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 22:03:16 GMT
You just know it's a mistake to respond Trina ... but sometimes we just have to Rog
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 14, 2021 22:03:39 GMT
If it's that bad here,why don't you just bugger off ? You moan about the place,but you keep on reading & posting...Doesn't that make you a total prat/plonker/twat etc ? In other words,just as bad as the folk you bad-mouth. Signed,Trina the Noddy Boater.😁 . . . . . . and another !!
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