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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 14, 2021 22:08:07 GMT
You just know it's a mistake to respond Trina ... but sometimes we just have to Rog Is this any easier for you to read ? :-- Many, most, of TB's active members would do themselves a big favour by trying out a revolutionary new approach to posting. Something along these lines :-- 1) Engage brain -- 2) Read the post you want to reply to -- 3) Check that brain is still engaged, and that you have actually understood what you've read -- 4) Post reply.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 22:10:28 GMT
"I'll skweam and skweam and skweam until I'm sthick"
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 14, 2021 22:14:38 GMT
"I'll skweam and skweam and skweam until I'm sthick" Rog You've got a bucket ready to hand, . . have you ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 22:20:20 GMT
That's the spirit ... have a laugh. @socks is sorted (to her satisfaction) and we've moved on Rog
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 14, 2021 22:27:59 GMT
That's the spirit ... have a laugh. @socks is sorted (to her satisfaction) and we've moved on Rog You think so ? Why then, did she post this 4 hours ago : - "The photo posted had a different ramshead design to mine, and I would say a better design.
I did have a completely new bearing collar fitted three years ago, not a replacement, the boatyard did not take the boat out of the water, which mystified me tbh.
I mean that there is no obvious nut holding the ramshead on.
I will try to speak to Tyler Wilson, but I don't hold out much hope.
The stock is in a tube underwater, which needs to be inspected for corrosion, and repaired if necessary.
I assume that the bang and subsequent de linking of rudder and tiller is due to a bolt shearing. The rudder is still in the same place, ie not twisted.
I will shine a torch down the stern, inside the Hull as maybe the stock goes down there, I don't know, I don't think so.
The boat engineer should have picked up on that."
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Post by rockdodger on Nov 14, 2021 22:33:25 GMT
Hi Tony - Any chance of posting a copy of the rudder assembly sketch that was emailed to you?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 22:38:28 GMT
Hi Tony - Any chance of posting a copy of the rudder assembly sketch that was emailed to you? Give it a bit. It can take time to draw something from imagination.
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Post by brummieboy on Nov 14, 2021 22:44:08 GMT
That's the spirit ... have a laugh. @socks is sorted (to her satisfaction) and we've moved on Rog You think so ? Why then, did she post this 4 hours ago : -
The boat engineer should have picked up on that."I think he did, so that's why he recommended out of the water job. My rudder used to be similar to what Socks' seems to be, and gradually, the THREE bolts holding the rudder to the stem used to gradually wear and the rudder became sloppy, so I had it changed. Given the restrictions at present, I'm sure CaRT would have loved to have had a drained pound to add to the woes. Can we let it rest now? Good luck Socks. Hope your cruising soon (within the confines of the closure, obviously)
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Post by Trina on Nov 14, 2021 22:52:44 GMT
You just know it's a mistake to respond Trina ... but sometimes we just have to Rog Thunderboat is obviously Unkle Dunkle's version of a hair shirt.Either that or...he really,really cannot help/stop himself !
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Post by rockdodger on Nov 14, 2021 22:58:58 GMT
Hi Tony - Any chance of posting a copy of the rudder assembly sketch that was emailed to you? Give it a bit. It can take time to draw something from imagination. π - guess I best not be holding my breathe then. Good night all.π
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 14, 2021 23:18:19 GMT
Hi Tony - Any chance of posting a copy of the rudder assembly sketch that was emailed to you? Doing so at this point might possibly only add to the confusion, . . and there's been more than enough of that created already. As I said back on last Friday afternoon, the first step is to establish just how the rudder and stock assembly is made and put together on Socks's boat -- which is why I asked, twice, if there was a builder's plate anywhere on the boat, or if at least the date of build was known. When I spoke to the hull builders, Tylers, on Friday, they were inclined to think, as I did, that the ramshead could have come loose on its unkeyed locking taper on the top end of the rudder stock, . . but that might not be the case IF the boat has a two piece rudder assembly with a short stock bolted with a four-bolt flange bolted to another flange or plate welded to the upper edge of the rudder, . . and all but one of those bolts has sheared. The four-bolt flange arrangement is what my customer's Tyler built hull had, but he's not sure that it was the original rudder arrangement (ie one piece or two piece stock) because there had been some damage and repairs in that area before he bought the boat.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 23:21:54 GMT
Epitaph
Here lies Anthony Dunkley He was a terrible cunt.
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Post by rockdodger on Nov 15, 2021 0:44:41 GMT
Hi Tony - Any chance of posting a copy of the rudder assembly sketch that was emailed to you? Doing so at this point might possibly only add to the confusion, . . and there's been more than enough of that created already. As I said back on last Friday afternoon, the first step is to establish just how the rudder and stock assembly is made and put together on Socks's boat -- which is why I asked, twice, if there was a builder's plate anywhere on the boat, or if at least the date of build was known. When I spoke to the hull builders, Tylers, on Friday, they were inclined to think, as I did, that the ramshead could have come loose on its unkeyed locking taper on the top end of the rudder stock, . . but that might not be the case IF the boat has a two piece rudder assembly with a short stock bolted to a four-bolt flange on the upper edge of the rudder, and all but one of those bolts has sheared. The four-bolt flange arrangement is what my customer's Tyler built hull had, but he's not sure that it was the original rudder because there had been some damage and repairs in that area before he bought the boat. π€―If you knew that on Friday, why did you post this on Saturday evening "One of my customers used to have a boat with a Tyler built hull - like Socks's - and he e-mailed me a sketch this morning showing the main details of the rudder assembly, . . so I now know pretty much what's likely to have happened, and what's needed to fix it", and then in response to some subsequent posts reiterate Saturdays post by highlighting it in Bold and linking to it on Sunday eveningπ€ Surely it would have been more prudent to post what you have just posted to me now on Friday after your discussions with Tylers?π₯΄ I, for one would certainly be less confused by all of these developments.π€―
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2021 0:52:26 GMT
Doing so at this point might possibly only add to the confusion, . . and there's been more than enough of that created already. As I said back on last Friday afternoon, the first step is to establish just how the rudder and stock assembly is made and put together on Socks's boat -- which is why I asked, twice, if there was a builder's plate anywhere on the boat, or if at least the date of build was known. When I spoke to the hull builders, Tylers, on Friday, they were inclined to think, as I did, that the ramshead could have come loose on its unkeyed locking taper on the top end of the rudder stock, . . but that might not be the case IF the boat has a two piece rudder assembly with a short stock bolted to a four-bolt flange on the upper edge of the rudder, and all but one of those bolts has sheared. The four-bolt flange arrangement is what my customer's Tyler built hull had, but he's not sure that it was the original rudder because there had been some damage and repairs in that area before he bought the boat. I, for one would certainly be less confused by all of these developments.π€― You would be less confused if you ignored the silly old tart.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Nov 15, 2021 1:09:24 GMT
You think so ? Why then, did she post this 4 hours ago : -
The boat engineer should have picked up on that."I think he did, so that's why he recommended out of the water job. My rudder used to be similar to what Socks' seems to be, and gradually, the THREE bolts holding the rudder to the stem used to gradually wear and the rudder became sloppy, so I had it changed. Given the restrictions at present, I'm sure CaRT would have loved to have had a drained pound to add to the woes. Can we let it rest now? Good luck Socks. Hope your cruising soon (within the confines of the closure, obviously) Try this revolutionary new approach to posting :-- 1) Engage brain -- 2) Read the post you want to reply to -- 3) Check that brain is still engaged, and that you have actually understood what you've read -- 4) Post reply.
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