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Post by kris on Mar 23, 2024 10:43:15 GMT
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 23, 2024 11:00:45 GMT
Most art these days is about grabbing headlines and obscene amounts of cash changing hands. It highlights the nature of money itself, something that only has value so long as enough people believe it.
Banksy is popular; I generally like his work, the urban guerrilla thing works well, but even he's not above it all, what with the shredded picture stunt and that.
On the other hand, what's an artist to do? Nobody ever said making a profit isn't allowed.
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Post by kris on Mar 23, 2024 11:12:10 GMT
Most art these days is about grabbing headlines and obscene amounts of cash changing hands. It highlights the nature of money itself, something that only has value so long as enough people believe it. Banksy is popular; I generally like his work, the urban guerrilla thing works well, but even he's not above it all, what with the shredded picture stunt and that. On the other hand, what's an artist to do? Nobody ever said making a profit isn't allowed. At least with banksy there is some social commentary in his work. I agree about the shredded work that ended up being worth more. But it was quite funny. I cant really see the social commentary in a shark in formaldehyde. Other than some people have got lots more money than sense. I watched a documentary about Brian Clark that I thought was very interesting. He has some very good ideas about the role of the art and artist.
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Post by on Mar 23, 2024 11:25:34 GMT
Damien Hirst's work is shit.
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Post by kris on Mar 23, 2024 11:34:47 GMT
Damien Hirst's work is shit. I completely agree. Along with a lot of the conceptual from the early 1990’s. Which is why the warehouse of Charles satchi that was full of it burnt down. It was never going to be worth more than he’d paid for it, especially after considering storage costs. So was easier to burn it and claim the insurance. The only way to make a profit from it.
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Post by dogless on Mar 23, 2024 11:35:04 GMT
Isn't the point of art that it's pointless, merely an adornment, or to provoke a reaction and simply a matter of personal taste?
Rog
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Post by on Mar 23, 2024 11:36:03 GMT
No.
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Post by kris on Mar 23, 2024 11:42:01 GMT
Isn't the point of art that it's pointless, merely an adornment, or to provoke a reaction and simply a matter of personal taste? Rog I suppose it depends on your definition. But to me art isn’t pointless, bad art is pointless or just about making money and business. The art market being one of the few unregulated markets. Because it’s one of the ways rich people get out of paying tax and hiding their wealth away from financial authorities. But actually if we look at origins of art, it was always meaning ful to the people who made it and the people who viewed it. The oldest art in these islands being 12,000 years old.
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Post by on Mar 23, 2024 11:54:02 GMT
The Rothko exhibition hit me like a flying brick. I really wasn't expecting to be so moved. That was mad shit.
Not a big art gallery person but crikey that was the real deal.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 23, 2024 11:57:11 GMT
To me the pointlessness is the good part. It's necessary to eat, construct a shelter etc. All life does this in some way. But so far humans are the only species to engage in the pointlessness of painting or whatever. It's an expression of culture. And probably self-awareness.
Do space aliens do art or is it all interstellar pillaging with lashings of unnecessary violence?
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 23, 2024 11:58:06 GMT
The Rothko exhibition hit me like a flying brick. I really wasn't expecting to be so moved. That was mad shit. Not a big art gallery person but crikey that was the real deal. You are a poseur of the first water.
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Post by kris on Mar 23, 2024 12:31:17 GMT
To me the pointlessness is the good part. It's necessary to eat, construct a shelter etc. All life does this in some way. But so far humans are the only species to engage in the pointlessness of painting or whatever. It's an expression of culture. And probably self-awareness. Do space aliens do art or is it all interstellar pillaging with lashings of unnecessary violence? I can’t believe that the art in the Mesolithic was pointless. Life was basically about survival and most of your energy would have gone into hunting and gathering food. So I can’t imagine them spending lots of energy on a pointless endeavor. There must have been meaning that has been lost, in my opinion.
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Post by kris on Mar 23, 2024 12:32:03 GMT
The Rothko exhibition hit me like a flying brick. I really wasn't expecting to be so moved. That was mad shit. Not a big art gallery person but crikey that was the real deal. You are a poseur of the first water. Why do you always attack Andrew personally?
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Post by kris on Mar 23, 2024 12:36:03 GMT
The Rothko exhibition hit me like a flying brick. I really wasn't expecting to be so moved. That was mad shit. Not a big art gallery person but crikey that was the real deal. Yes you’ve said this before. I’ve only ever had one profound experience with a painting and that was a Vermeer painting one wet rainy afternoon in Amsterdam.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 23, 2024 12:44:02 GMT
You are a poseur of the first water. Why do you always attack Andrew personally? Because he's a twat
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