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Post by deleted on May 12, 2024 14:19:12 GMT
In any case it's entirely appropriate that more developed economies lead the way on emerging tech. Just donβt let but bill gates shade the atmosphere to block the suns rays. I mean what could possibly go wrong? Yeah that's a real concern
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Post by kris on May 12, 2024 15:13:42 GMT
Just donβt let but bill gates shade the atmosphere to block the suns rays. I mean what could possibly go wrong? Yeah that's a real concern Itβs what one of the companies he owns is researching.
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Post by deleted on May 12, 2024 15:39:15 GMT
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Post by kris on May 12, 2024 15:57:31 GMT
Yes the Simpson have a history of getting predictions eerily right.
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Post by deleted on May 12, 2024 16:03:45 GMT
must...resist...
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Post by kris on May 12, 2024 16:04:55 GMT
itβs the spill chuckers fault. Is that better?
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 12, 2024 19:05:32 GMT
We should be using less oil but the whole way that Capitalism works is to increase Global population as much as humanly possible and then get the resultant people to produce and consume as much as possible.
The world population was under one billion until about 1800 and in just over 200 years it has grown to eight billion. In 1800 we used virtually none of the planet's reserves, just its harvest, but now we extract 4.4 billion tonnes of oil per year. It the long term, that's unsustainable.
I can't see this changing anytime soon, there are just too many vested interests at play.
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Post by β on May 12, 2024 20:11:45 GMT
We should be using less oil but the whole way that Capitalism works is to increase Global population as much as humanly possible and then get the resultant people to produce and consume as much as possible. The world population was under one billion until about 1800 and in just over 200 years it has grown to eight billion. In 1800 we used virtually none of the planet's reserves, just its harvest, but now we extract 4.4 billion tonnes of oil per year. It the long term, that's unsustainable. I can't see this changing anytime soon, there are just too many vested interests at play. As one of my rather more erudite Boat friends pointed out to me when we were both rather the worse for wear on his narrow Boat last summer 'It is all fucked'. I agree with this and when I left his Boat on the floating electric beer drinking platform the first thing I did was to drive it straight into a willow tree. Nice old tree very forgiving. Willows were deliberately planted as they are good for managing the flow and one can get away with it. I did then execute a midnight one hour transit without any further incidents but going straight into the tree was an indicator for what the humans are doing. In theory the intelligence exists to steer clear of destruction but in reality very few people are as intelligent as me. So yeah. Its all fucked and humans. unless they possess exceptional intelligence, will destroy themselves. The issue is in the education system. Generally speaking highly intelligent people will be targeted and attempts will be made to channel them into careers which are likely to be damaging to humans and the environment. Think about industry leaders and bankers. These are no good. Its for the money. It happened to me when I was at school. I was part of the intelligentsia. and I have been approached in the street by a teacher about my younger daughter who is obviously a Mensa kid and he was going on about how she should be sent to a private school because she is so clever and all that and I was like 'yes I know. We are all super intelligent in my family but we try to steer clear of destroying the planet' and he was like 'omg' and I was like 'I thought about this one in advance'. So yeah.
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Post by brummieboy on May 12, 2024 20:38:21 GMT
We need to address the problems of pollution and consumption, and have been doing so for some years. Cars now are much cleaner and economical than they used to be, and E.V.s will do something more towards this but until the infrastructure is there to support it progress is stilted. The problem is that the 'developing' world where there is still poverty and slavery do not see the need and continue to pollute. Mankind is making great strides in fossil fuel alternatives, and gradually we will become cleaner but thinking needs to be joined up. The current spiel about heatpumps is all well and good, but many urban houses do not have the 2mtx2mtx1.5mt wall space to house one, along with the noise problem to neighbours. Civil disobedience and criminal damage is never the answer to any problems, but when a soft self serving judiciary hands out nothing but warnings and suspended sentences, mere slaps on the wrist, such actions will persist. The time has come to hand out real sentences applicable to the cause. Start by revoking driving licences and passports to stop private motoring, and air travel. This would cost nothing in financing prison sentences, and it would be a case of the punishment fitting the crime.
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Post by β on May 12, 2024 20:55:01 GMT
In reality people need to understand that their 'quality of life: is not sustainable. Earlier today I was going through Boulters lock in Maidenhead in my Β£1000 20 yar old launch and there were twi groups of young adults in day Boats which must have been 50 grand each and were also made of fibre reinforced plastic and all they were talking about was which flight they would be taking for the summer holiday.
Mad shit.
People need to wake up.
It actually IS all fucked but nobody noticed.
Sadly the biggest scam of all is Tesla.
Make it more convenient to run cars. What a great idea. Not. The real pisstake was when the Tesla guy suggested cities could have elevators and underground tunnels.
Clearly oblivious to the fact most large cities have had underground mass transit trains for a long time.
Encourage the selfish behaviour patterns. What a good idea.
Waste products.
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Post by deleted on May 12, 2024 21:03:10 GMT
Don't worry, it'll all kick off before long. Probably in the pacific. The Chinese are getting feisty.
Chuckanookaday.
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Post by kris on May 13, 2024 6:43:14 GMT
Civil disobedience and criminal damage is never the answer to any problems, but when a soft self serving judiciary hands out nothing but warnings and suspended sentences, mere slaps on the wrist, such actions will persist. The time has come to hand out real sentences applicable to the cause. civil disobedience worked well for the suffragettes and for Mahatma Gandhi. Do I need to mention more cases where itβs worked? Oh and by the way, quite a lot of climate protesters are sat in jail right now.
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Post by Clinton Cool on May 13, 2024 7:21:04 GMT
We need to address the problems of pollution and consumption, and have been doing so for some years. Cars now are much cleaner and economical than they used to be, and E.V.s will do something more towards this but until the infrastructure is there to support it progress is stilted. The problem is that the 'developing' world where there is still poverty and slavery do not see the need and continue to pollute. Mankind is making great strides in fossil fuel alternatives, and gradually we will become cleaner but thinking needs to be joined up. The current spiel about heatpumps is all well and good, but many urban houses do not have the 2mtx2mtx1.5mt wall space to house one, along with the noise problem to neighbours. Civil disobedience and criminal damage is never the answer to any problems, but when a soft self serving judiciary hands out nothing but warnings and suspended sentences, mere slaps on the wrist, such actions will persist. The time has come to hand out real sentences applicable to the cause. Start by revoking driving licences and passports to stop private motoring, and air travel. This would cost nothing in financing prison sentences, and it would be a case of the punishment fitting the crime. The problem is that while the developed world does what you describe the less developed world develops, as did the developed world emitting vast, ever growing levels of damaging shit. The less developed world makes the case that the developed world were able to do this unchecked. It's only fair that they can do the same. There is merit in this argument. It's only fair. Unfortunately, if we believe the scientists, the planet doesn't give a hoot about concepts such as the human notion of fairness. If the less developed world develops in the way that the developed world did there won't be a planet suitable for the ever growing number of humans to live on. So, regardless of fairness, less developed countries cannot gear up and aim for their their people to be driving cars, living in air conditioned houses and flying around the world, just for fun.
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Post by kris on May 13, 2024 7:30:56 GMT
Do as we say, not as we do? Or a new form of colonialism?
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Post by Clinton Cool on May 13, 2024 7:44:00 GMT
Do as we say, not as we do? Or a new form of colonialism? You seem hung up on the past.
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