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Post by tonyb on Nov 23, 2016 19:32:14 GMT
Well it is not a Buccaneer then. They looked like a floating motor coach. The talk about Orange, front canopy and sliding roof made it sound like one. They were a sort of rip-off of the Wildes Caribbean design but more boxy. I think most had a hydraulic transmission system but the Broads yards did all sorts of things to them..
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Post by bargemast on Nov 23, 2016 19:55:21 GMT
Thats the issue Tony we dont know much about it, its called caprice 11 and it was made in 83 and it looks like a broom 32 foot long cant find any paperwork for it at all other than the hire pack maybe there will be something in there. I will post pictures tomorrow as long as weather is good. I think you are right about drafty though just brushes to stop the breeze!! She doesn't look like this type of Broads cruiser that's named "Caprice" too ?
www.waterwaysholidays.com/detail/cbcaprice.htm
Peter.
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Post by phil70 on Nov 23, 2016 21:41:56 GMT
A quick look at Horning.org shows Caprice 11 as an Alphacraft32 Broads reg is Q752 Phil
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Post by peterboat on Nov 23, 2016 22:34:40 GMT
Thats the issue Tony we dont know much about it, its called caprice 11 and it was made in 83 and it looks like a broom 32 foot long cant find any paperwork for it at all other than the hire pack maybe there will be something in there. I will post pictures tomorrow as long as weather is good. I think you are right about drafty though just brushes to stop the breeze!! She doesn't look like this type of Broads cruiser that's named "Caprice" too ?
www.waterwaysholidays.com/detail/cbcaprice.htm
Peter.
Thats her exactly the same in every way beautiful or not
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Post by peterboat on Nov 23, 2016 22:37:12 GMT
A quick look at Horning.org shows Caprice 11 as an Alphacraft32 Broads reg is Q752 Phil She is but now has a BW number for over 4 years so are they any good I wonder I will have to have a look at the website
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Post by peterboat on Nov 23, 2016 22:40:58 GMT
Cheers this is a great club we have here, full of helpful people, I now know what I have bought great
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Post by lollygagger on Nov 23, 2016 23:22:09 GMT
My parents took us for a 2 week broads holiday in the 70's in "one like that", it was very cold is all I remember, waiting for the ice to thaw a bit before we could move. That and failing to throw a mud weight onto the bank, it barely made it over the side of the boat.
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Post by peterboat on Nov 23, 2016 23:42:21 GMT
I cant find out anything on tinternet time to change my search engine
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Post by peterboat on Nov 23, 2016 23:45:35 GMT
My parents took us for a 2 week broads holiday in the 70's in "one like that", it was very cold is all I remember, waiting for the ice to thaw a bit before we could move. That and failing to throw a mud weight onto the bank, it barely made it over the side of the boat. It does have diesel central heating and a lot of windows!! I dont intend to live in it but Phil says they are ok even in winter
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Post by phil70 on Nov 24, 2016 0:09:39 GMT
My parents took us for a 2 week broads holiday in the 70's in "one like that", it was very cold is all I remember, waiting for the ice to thaw a bit before we could move. That and failing to throw a mud weight onto the bank, it barely made it over the side of the boat. It does have diesel central heating and a lot of windows!! I dont intend to live in it but Phil says they are ok even in winter Ours didn't have a sliding roof and had a 4.5kw diesel heater. Blown air plus a 2kw blown air gas heater the main heating was a 8kw drip feed heater.The roof on ours was double skin with a honeycomb in-between plus a secondary head lining. Yes it is surprising how much space there is on them. Ours was a Caribbean, she had been re-engined, the engine and hydraulic drive had been removed from the stern and the new engine dropped into the centre cabin via a hatch cut in the roof, a 2.2 BMC commander on a long shaft. It was great because it meant I could access all of the engine inside the boat. The steering was via solid bar with a couple of universal joints, no slack Teleflex to worry about, I loved that boat, if it fitted the locks down here I would have kept it. Phil
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Post by lollygagger on Nov 24, 2016 8:44:44 GMT
My parents took us for a 2 week broads holiday in the 70's in "one like that", it was very cold is all I remember, waiting for the ice to thaw a bit before we could move. That and failing to throw a mud weight onto the bank, it barely made it over the side of the boat. It does have diesel central heating and a lot of windows!! I dont intend to live in it but Phil says they are ok even in winter This one had tiny gas heater that my dad wouldn't let us use for long in case we didn't wake up. It was Easter, no doubt the cheaper end of the year.
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Post by peterboat on Nov 24, 2016 8:52:25 GMT
The engine is in the bathroom!! on a shaft it was rebuilt last year but I dont have much faith in BMC 1500s I am sure it will be ok though.
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Post by bargemast on Nov 24, 2016 9:00:19 GMT
A quick look at Horning.org shows Caprice 11 as an Alphacraft32 Broads reg is Q752 Phil She is but now has a BW number for over 4 years so are they any good I wonder I will have to have a look at the website They were tough boats, imagine the number of years they've been abused by mainly novices, and are still going strong.
Most of the older boats were still made by hand lay-up, and that made a stronger, more even thickness to the Fiberglass hulls.
For the hire fleets they needed strong stuff, so I think that your new boat will still be pretty good, and the BMC 1500 is a tough engine too.
They are still quite popular, so if you bought her cheap, and don't have to invest too much money in making her look nice again, you'll make a nice profit the day you sell her.
Peter
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Post by Trina on Nov 24, 2016 14:42:26 GMT
It does have diesel central heating and a lot of windows!! I dont intend to live in it but Phil says they are ok even in winter Ours didn't have a sliding roof and had a 4.5kw diesel heater. Blown air plus a 2kw blown air gas heater the main heating was a 8kw drip feed heater.The roof on ours was double skin with a honeycomb in-between plus a secondary head lining. Yes it is surprising how much space there is on them. Ours was a Caribbean, she had been re-engined, the engine and hydraulic drive had been removed from the stern and the new engine dropped into the centre cabin via a hatch cut in the roof, a 2.2 BMC commander on a long shaft. It was great because it meant I could access all of the engine inside the boat. The steering was via solid bar with a couple of universal joints, no slack Teleflex to worry about, I loved that boat, if it fitted the locks down here I would have kept it. Phil We saw quite a few Caribbeans on the Leeds & Liverpool 2 years ago.I really liked the look of them.
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Post by phil70 on Nov 24, 2016 15:07:28 GMT
She is but now has a BW number for over 4 years so are they any good I wonder I will have to have a look at the website They were tough boats, imagine the number of years they've been abused by mainly novices, and are still going strong.
Most of the older boats were still made by hand lay-up, and that made a stronger, more even thickness to the Fiberglass hulls.
For the hire fleets they needed strong stuff, so I think that your new boat will still be pretty good, and the BMC 1500 is a tough engine too.
They are still quite popular, so if you bought her cheap, and don't have to invest too much money in making her look nice again, you'll make a nice profit the day you sell her.
Peter
I was amazed at the thickness of our GRP, putting new skin fitting on I had to go through from both sides with a hole saw. I reckon that as GRP was fairly new to boat building then that the conversation went like this. "well how thick shall we make It? I dunno, what about 3/8 of an inch? Not sure about that, let's double it to be on the safe side , OK 3/4" it is. Phil
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