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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 12:16:45 GMT
So should I invoice Crt for the two hours work, doing their job clearing the debris!
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 30, 2018 12:16:45 GMT
True. And I think you have been having therapy - successfully. I didn’t detect many wild raging tantrums despite us provoking you a little. Definitely an improvement, well done. Twat That's better, I was beginning to worry about you!
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 12:29:50 GMT
That's better, I was beginning to worry about you! yes I feel better, being polite to idiotic Crt apologists like yourself and Martin was beginning to make me feel ill.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 13:02:12 GMT
So should I invoice Crt for the two hours work, doing their job clearing the debris! No harm trying I suppose. It would be interesting to see if you achieve a positive outcome. I know that TD suggested flushing it away with the locks and this is "the right thing" but I wonder if CRT encourage boaters to do this? I know that there are sometimes problems filling short pounds which are low because if you put too much water down it can drive debris and shit in behind the gates at the next lock causing another problem. So I don't think they would condone it.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 30, 2018 13:22:20 GMT
So should I invoice Crt for the two hours work, doing their job clearing the debris! No harm trying I suppose. It would be interesting to see if you achieve a positive outcome. I know that TD suggested flushing it away with the locks and this is "the right thing" but I wonder if CRT encourage boaters to do this? I know that there are sometimes problems filling short pounds which are low because if you put too much water down it can drive debris and shit in behind the gates at the next lock causing another problem. So I don't think they would condone it. Yeabut it's a river!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 13:25:40 GMT
Yes but I still think if you were to ask CRT if you should do what TD suggests they might say no that you should not do it.
Personally I would just drag all the detritus out of the water with my teeth.
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Post by Jim on Jan 30, 2018 13:29:18 GMT
So should I invoice Crt for the two hours work, doing their job clearing the debris! No harm trying I suppose. It would be interesting to see if you achieve a positive outcome. I know that TD suggested flushing it away with the locks and this is "the right thing" but I wonder if CRT encourage boaters to do this? I know that there are sometimes problems filling short pounds which are low because if you put too much water down it can drive debris and shit in behind the gates at the next lock causing another problem. So I don't think they would condone it. I'd give it a go and be long gone before cart knew.
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Post by lollygagger on Jan 30, 2018 13:30:33 GMT
Yes but I still think if you were to ask CRT if you should do what TD suggests they might say no that you should not do it. Personally I would just drag all the detritus out of the water with my teeth. Yes, they'll take the useless but arse covering view that you shouldn't do it. It's the modern way. That's exactly why personally if I were in that situation I wouldn't ask.
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 15:27:30 GMT
Yes but I still think if you were to ask CRT if you should do what TD suggests they might say no that you should not do it. Personally I would just drag all the detritus out of the water with my teeth. it's exactly what BW/Crt used to do before they decided it isnt there responsibility anymore.
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Post by IainS on Jan 30, 2018 15:41:56 GMT
So should I invoice Crt for the two hours work, doing their job clearing the debris! They probably won't pay up, on the grounds that you failed to comply with Health and Safety by not wearing a life jacket and/or not having a worker standing by with a throwing line. And insufficient tea consumption...
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 15:55:30 GMT
So should I invoice Crt for the two hours work, doing their job clearing the debris! They probably won't pay up, on the grounds that you failed to comply with Health and Safety by not wearing a life jacket and/or not having a worker standing by with a throwing line. And insufficient tea consumption... I probably did the job far to fast as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 16:33:06 GMT
Yes but I still think if you were to ask CRT if you should do what TD suggests they might say no that you should not do it. Personally I would just drag all the detritus out of the water with my teeth. it's exactly what BW/Crt used to do before they decided it isnt there responsibility anymore. Leading up to the aborted take over of Navigation by C&RT a proposal to cease reversing locks on the Anglian waterways network due to health and safety fears (code for cutbacks and abdicating responsibility for managing the river - tie in nicely with an inexperienced and inept management!) It was met with strident opposition from many that would be adversely affected by this idiotic plan. Some background:- The river was improved in the 1930's with locks that doubled as sluices so that during times of high flows and flood; water could be discharged in a controlled manner. It's a handraulic operation that requires men to chain back the vee gates and raise and lower the guillotine as required. Apart from devastating floods like we saw in Easter 1998 (caused in large part by failures that fall at the feet of the EA!) it works and has done for the best part of 80 years. Well, following on from the hue and cry over the planned scrapping of lock reversal the EA told us that they would embark on an extensive research programme, installing level monitoring equipment at sites where locks are currently reversed - the idea being to collect data and study the effects of not reversing the lock. An utter waste of money as anyone with knowledge of the River particularly those with riverside property could tell them what would happen without wasting money on learning what is all ready known. So you ask, why am I waffling on? Well, Titchmarsh Lock is shut for maintenance and has a coffer dam in place while the vee gates are worked on meaning it cannot be reversed to discharge last weeks heavy rain. Can you guess what happened? Correct, the river overtopped the upstream bank as the weir into Brancey Brook and the mill race sluice couldn't cope with the volume of water coming downstream. Had it not been for a newly fitted flood gate and plenty of sandbags the mill would have been flooded. So having wasted a load of money the river ably proved the engineers that designed and implemented the improvements 80 years ago to actually know what they were on about. And you wonder why I say C&RT shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the East Anglian waterways Back to Kris. The Muppets from C&RT don't clear it because it doesn't effect them, it saves money but reduces the quality of the waterway in general. Knobheads
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 18:13:16 GMT
What "other place" ? From CarnalWorld (I had a peep today): From 'the other place' but news worthy none the less : If they are suffering from such low incomes then surely the problems of repaying interest, plus the continuing 'ongoing' costs are going to be unmanageable ? Its like these 'payday' loans it doesn't actually give you anything additional apart from more debt. Is the plan to go bankrupt and hand it all back to Government control (or the EA ?) WITH funds at an exceeding low level Canal & River Trust has resorted to borrowing £100 millions in the form of bonds. Issuing bonds is a form of borrowing money to give medium or long-term security, but at a cost as it commits to specific repayment dates, at fixed or variable interest. Borrowed this month The Trust borrowed £100 millions this month (January) and it is understood it intends to borrow a further £50 millions later in the year by a further issue of bonds. It blames the reduction of income from its assets coupled with a rise in pension deficit. There was no Press Release of this move to secure funds, that took place at a Defra Grant Review Meeting with the decision made by the Trust's hierarchy. The repayment dates or rates of interest were not released, but can only be seen as an expensive stop-gap to its ever declining funds canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic/94881-crt-borrowing-%C2%A3150-million-due-to-declining-income/ thanks very much foxy, this is very interesting. It looks like parry has sold the long term future of the waterways down the river. Will his pension be effected when the house of cards comes tumbling down?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:13:49 GMT
I assume CRT was designed to destroy itself leading to a sell off of the system. It seems unlikely that it would be taken back under government control. Bearing in mind I know shit all about this sort of thing.
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 18:17:06 GMT
The floater
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