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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 18:18:47 GMT
I assume CRT was designed to destroy itself leading to a sell off of the system. It seems unlikely that it would be taken back under government control. Bearing in mind I know shit all about this sort of thing. It basicly means that parry has hocked the future of the waterways . He doesn't care because it's along way down the road and he will be gone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:20:15 GMT
Probably should not have had chicken for supper.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:22:29 GMT
I assume CRT was designed to destroy itself leading to a sell off of the system. It seems unlikely that it would be taken back under government control. Bearing in mind I know shit all about this sort of thing. It basicly means that parry has hocked the future of the waterways . He doesn't care because it's along way down the road and he will be gone. Yes it seems that way and I assumed this was the reason for CRT to come into existence in the first place. It seems mighty unsurprising. Predictable even. I don't think concentrating on the personalities involved is very useful though .
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 18:24:44 GMT
It basicly means that parry has hocked the future of the waterways . He doesn't care because it's along way down the road and he will be gone. Yes it seems that way and I assumed this was the reason for CRT to come into existence in the first place. It seems mighty unsurprising. Predictable even. I don't think concentrating on the personalities involved is very useful though . Yes but at the end of the day he is personally responsible.
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 18:25:35 GMT
I think it is worth starting a seperate thread about this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:30:24 GMT
Don't tell Telemachus about it !
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 18:33:22 GMT
Don't tell Telemachus about it ! hell find some excuse for it .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:36:00 GMT
And you might find in ten years' time there is a thriving inland waterways network but the type of people using it may have changed. I think its a valuable enough resource that most of the system will remain useable but I can see the whole 14 day thing being squeezed out one way or another over time. Arguably this could actually be to the benefit of the system because it would encourage more boat movements to take place which means more maintenance would have to take place.
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 18:40:12 GMT
You might also find that they are forced to sell off more property to meet the repayments on these bonds. If they can't meet their financial commitments now while they are still getting goverment funding what chance is there when this finishes?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:51:09 GMT
You might also find that they are forced to sell off more property to meet the repayments on these bonds. If they can't meet their financial commitments now while they are still getting goverment funding what chance is there when this finishes? Yes but that's the whole point of CRT. Fuck the system up then sell it off to vested interests like umm errr marina owners ?
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Post by lollygagger on Jan 30, 2018 18:52:45 GMT
Yes it seems that way and I assumed this was the reason for CRT to come into existence in the first place. It seems mighty unsurprising. Predictable even. I don't think concentrating on the personalities involved is very useful though . Yes but at the end of the day he is personally responsible. I don't think he's some wayward despot fucking up his brief Kris, I think you'll find that behind the PR version of his job description, he's doing exactly what he's been employed to do. He's not responsible, if it weren't him it would be someone else because that is what that job is - to go in ever diminishing circles until there's nothing left. If they intended a Rosey future they wouldn't be shedding as many permanent staff as possible and selling off the family jewels. They sit in offices because you can't do this job on the side of a canal. They do as little maintenance as they think they can get away with meanwhile because they are going to abandon it anyway. But it must be slowly abandoned, like everything else in this once thriving country, to avoid uproar. I'm not a crt ranter, they are fulfilling their purpose! The purpose is the problem and the government themselves, even if the original players have now melted away, is the only answer - do you think they could be persuaded to about turn? Politically it's probably difficult to dosh out cash for a minority of the population, most of who are well enough off to own boats purely for fun and on the other hand say there isn't the cash to run the nhs for instance. A conservative government will never do it, a labour one might I suppose?
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 18:59:58 GMT
I've met parry on numerous occasions. He is a glad handing politician., doing exactly what he has been put i. Post to do. The only reason I started posting on social media to is try and help more people realise the reality before it's too late. Without such a managment topheavy structure I believe the waterways could be self funding, but not a profit making organisation. If you could get enough public outrage going to force the goverment to transfer the assets to the right people before it's too late and they've sold it all off.
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 19:03:00 GMT
You might also find that they are forced to sell off more property to meet the repayments on these bonds. If they can't meet their financial commitments now while they are still getting goverment funding what chance is there when this finishes? Yes but that's the whole point of CRT. Fuck the system up then sell it off to vested interests like umm errr marina owners ? i completely agree, I think taking out these bonds proves it beyond doubt.
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Post by lollygagger on Jan 30, 2018 19:08:04 GMT
I've met parry on numerous occasions. He is a glad handing politician., doing exactly what he has been put i. Post to do. The only reason I started posting on social media to is try and help more people realise the reality before it's too late. Without such a managment topheavy structure I believe the waterways could be self funding, but not a profit making organisation. If you could get enough public outrage going to force the goverment to transfer the assets to the right people before it's too late and they've sold it all off. But government wants it broken up and disposed of so there isn't anything left to have to take back and spend money on. I dpn't think you'll get anywhere. I may sound defeatist to you, but I think I'm reasonably politically aware and being realistic. Politicians respond not to pressure but to greed. What would be the attraction of picking up something that's been done and dusted in parliamentary terms and wittling on about it for any politician?
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 19:09:12 GMT
Public outrage.
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