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Post by Telemachus on Feb 15, 2018 10:38:36 GMT
Ah so when you want to give an opinion about children you must be forgiven, but when I do it I am a pariah! You were a 'pariah' (your description) due to your inability on that thread, to post without insulting everyone or without using the worst obscenities. I apologised for commenting on a thread relating to children, as I have sufficient humility to realise the many parents on here may be thinking I know nothing about the subject. In my case, on two counts I thought you said your were highly intelligent? Rog Ah so you can get away with doing anything so long as you apologise first. Must remember that. Anyway, I didn’t insult everyone, there were one or two whom I’m didn’t insult.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 10:42:34 GMT
Don't listen to nasty Nick, at least it was a new to the forum joke Vince. As for the topic. Poofs having kids, I think the worst aspect is that a lot of the kids are getting treated like fashion accessories. So what happens when the fashion changes. Maybe they can hand them back to the surrogate when they've had enough. It's definitely being used to politicize by some. Why else would such an announcement be made. Wrong in every way. Just using kids as pawns is never right.
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 15, 2018 10:47:13 GMT
This is such an outdated idea, although I can see it being a problem in the swamps of Finland. Poofs are cool and stylish, and with modern kids being so superficial and materialistic the kid picked up by the well dressed gym-bunny dad in the pink pound car will be king, whereas the kids picked up by the fat ugly straggly baggily-dressed styleless straight dad, or the frumpy saggy “I’ve have my kids so now i must look as ugly as possible to discourage him from wanting sex” mum will be the ones getting stick. Rumours and gossip only spread when the truth is being hidden. I think you may be forgetting kids can be cruel at times. They will pick on a kid for having the wrong trainers. Going back, I thing it's all relationships that have issues. We don't seem to be getting the married for 50 years anymore. Sam and I have been together for nearly 15 years and I've seen many couples of all types get married and divorced in less time. Yes kids can definitely be cruel at times. We have a few on here! But kids will be cruel about anything - weight, appearance, clothes, materialistic possessions etc. Having same sex parents is well down the list.
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Post by peterboat on Feb 15, 2018 10:49:33 GMT
Richard and Simon had many relationships before meeting each other, they have gay friends who we meet none are in a stable relationship! they are every time we meet them with a different partner. Chris of our moorings must have had 10 partners in the last 13 years, and Paul one of his partners who lives on another boat [part time] is the same so its not prejudice its a fact. I seem to have a lot of gay friends I clearly like the person and not their sexuality! Mark and Andy Quaysider are a lovely couple Jayne and I enjoyed a drunken BBQ with them, I couldnt care less which side they bat for its the person that matters every time But there are plenty of straight people exactly the same. And plenty of straight people who wish they were the same and cheat on their partners. I would say that straights are better at pretending to be in a long term relationship, whilst cheating and eventually breaking up the relationship a few years after spending 10s of thousands on a fancy wedding. But anyway, do any of these short-termists you mention want or have kids? Generally poofs only want kids when they are in a strong and stable relationship. I dont disagree with you, and yes a couple of the ladies do have kids they found a prospective father did the business and had kids then went back to the ladies in their life! I dont ask whether the fathers have anything to do with the kids as to be honest the kids are loved and well cared for
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 15, 2018 10:51:39 GMT
And on the cruel kids teasing and bullying, don’t forget that Lance and Tom are absolutely loaded. No shitey council estate slum comprehensive school for them, their kid will go to a proper school and probably learn the classics.
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Post by peterboat on Feb 15, 2018 10:54:40 GMT
And on the cruel kids teasing and bullying, don’t forget that Lance and Tom are absolutely loaded. No shitey council estate slum comprehensive school for them, their kid will go to a proper school and probably learn the classics. Dont politicians go to proper schools.......................................
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 15, 2018 10:59:31 GMT
And on the cruel kids teasing and bullying, don’t forget that Lance and Tom are absolutely loaded. No shitey council estate slum comprehensive school for them, their kid will go to a proper school and probably learn the classics. Dont politicians go to proper schools....................................... Some do, some don’t. And you can tell.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 11:00:59 GMT
You were a 'pariah' (your description) due to your inability on that thread, to post without insulting everyone or without using the worst obscenities. I apologised for commenting on a thread relating to children, as I have sufficient humility to realise the many parents on here may be thinking I know nothing about the subject. In my case, on two counts I thought you said your were highly intelligent? Rog Ah so you can get away with doing anything so long as you apologise first. Must remember that. Anyway, I didn’t insult everyone, there were one or two whom I’m didn’t insult. I think you did. Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 15, 2018 11:03:07 GMT
Ah so you can get away with doing anything so long as you apologise first. Must remember that. Anyway, I didn’t insult everyone, there were one or two whom I’m didn’t insult. I think you did. Rog I think you are wrong. There are about 7.6 billion people in the world. I’m sure I can’t have insulted more than half of them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 11:07:27 GMT
Based on your performance on Thunderboat, I'd guess you're quite close.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 11:15:20 GMT
You were a 'pariah' (your description) due to your inability on that thread, to post without insulting everyone or without using the worst obscenities. I apologised for commenting on a thread relating to children, as I have sufficient humility to realise the many parents on here may be thinking I know nothing about the subject. In my case, on two counts I thought you said your were highly intelligent? Rog Ah so you can get away with doing anything so long as you apologise first. Must remember that. You miss the subtle difference between apologising when you acknowledge that your own knowledge about a subject may possibly be limited by a lack of personal knowledge and experience, which is what Rodger was doing, and apologising in advance for being a 'know it all smart arse' which is what you didn't do. It is simple recognition of that fact.
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Post by quaysider on Feb 15, 2018 11:31:23 GMT
I haven't got time at the mo as I'm dashing out (no pun) but Peter summed it up for me. It's good (in a way) that society has moved on and accepts 2 dads more BUT children of biggots WONT have moved on and their (the poofs) kids will be ragged something awful in the playground by the minority - which, as we'll all remember are the ones with the biggest mouths at school. Not sure if I have understood what you are getting at - surely taking this further would mean children who are gay should not admit it as they might get bullied because of it.AS for IVF - if you can afford it.. fine. I think a balance is needed otherwise life becomes more about how much money you have.Peace people x You did misunderstand- I was referring to the children OF the poofs (not poofy children)... Oddly enough, in what little experience I have of the younger generation of today, they come out at school with MUCH less hostility than we had. In fact -when I first came on here (and cwdf) I was nervous about being "out".... I hadn't realised what an accepting bunch boaters are... like Peter said, they either like (or not) PEOPLE not sexuality in general - most people don't like me cause I can be an opinionated twat- NOT cause I'm a bender! (well either that or cause I'm a ginner)... EITHER way at may age I don't give a toss any more. Foxy made a point about "simple" fixes for a twisted falopin tube etc... but as for deformed tadpoles and various other defects, then if someone NEEDS or feels the need to have kids, adopt.. foster... do charity work . Take my mum - she was desperate to have a large family (there's just my brother and me) and she lost lots of babies trying... natures way of saying be happy with what you've got. I still think having 2 dads or 2 mums isn't ideal - YES it's better having loving parents that are supportive and in a stable unit, whatever form that may be BUT I'm glad I had a mum AND dad. it's about balance... natures own I suspect. I'm not saying for one second Tom what's his face and his husband WONT make "good" parents but their kids will not have a "normal" up bringing due to their notoriety. slightly off topic here - I'm SO amazed and pleased these days when I'm introduced to new people - straights I mean that young lads don't bat an eye lid any more about having a beer with a bender. It's a shame it wasn't the case up in the yorkshire dales where I was brought up 30 odd yeras ago... the "lad" culture is perfectly accepting... well the NON--chav version at any rate. Long may it continue ... I DO feel sorry for the ruskies though... they have a terrible time - we should (as in uk poofs) be grateful for the liberties and acceptance we already HAVE and just get on with making the world as good a place for everyone as we can.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 11:59:36 GMT
Good stuff. Not as succinct as Chagall, but good Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 15, 2018 12:12:07 GMT
Based on your performance on Thunderboat, I'd guess you're quite close. Rog I only insult people who insult me or others. In the case of the other kiddie thread it was because several people lied and, libelled and misrepresented me to the damage of my personal integrity. If you think that makes them the victim and me the aggressor then so be it. In the case of the SE boating group, people were ridiculing a harmless lady not on here to defend herself and I insulted them for it. Again, if you think etcetc. It is very easy to be polite and inoffensive whilst others are getting a hard time, but also spineless.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 12:14:09 GMT
Based on your performance on Thunderboat, I'd guess you're quite close. Rog I only insult people who insult me or others. In the case of the other kiddie thread it was because several people lied and, libelled and misrepresented me to the damage of my personal integrity. If you think that makes them the victim and me the aggressor then so be it. In the case of the SE boating group, people were ridiculing a harmless lady not on here to defend herself and I insulted them for it. Again, if you think etcetc. What a hero. You should receive a medal for your bullshitting stories.
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