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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 26, 2016 15:28:51 GMT
A French catholic priest this time, shot dead by IS sympathisers.
All these goings on in France and Germany of late makes me wonder about multi culturalism and relatively open borders. Those who questioned this in the past were instantly condemned as racists, bigots, meat heads, little Englanders etc. etc. Current happenings might suggest that the reality is that these were the wise ones, a small vilified minority in a sea of politically correct, multi cultural supporting fools. Could we now say that the 'rivers of blood' speech, held up for decades as the perfect example of bigotry, was in fact a work of wisdom and great vision? If not, and the current flow of blood is considered to be a trickle, how many people need to die before the trickle is accepted as a river?
Is multi culturalism an experiment; one heisted upon the people without their agreement by cleverly engineered cultural change; together with supporting laws; that may one day be seen as the greatest failed experiment in the history of mankind?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 15:44:41 GMT
A French catholic priest this time, shot dead by IS sympathisers. All these goings on in France and Germany of late makes me wonder about multi culturalism and relatively open borders. Those who questioned this in the past were instantly condemned as racists, bigots, meat heads, little Englanders etc. etc. Current happenings might suggest that the reality is that these were the wise ones, a small vilified minority in a sea of politically correct, multi cultural supporting fools. Could we now say that the 'rivers of blood' speech, held up for decades as the perfect example of bigotry, was in fact a work of wisdom and great vision? If not, and the current flow of blood is considered to be a trickle, how many people need to die before the trickle is accepted as a river? Is multi culturalism an experiment; one heisted upon the people without their agreement by cleverly engineered cultural change; together with supporting laws; that may one day be seen as the greatest failed experiment in the history of mankind? The question to ask is, what result is being achieved by this in the big picture? My view is that it's about control and money again (disregarding the odd nutter). Fear tactics undermine and control the minds of the public. Terrorism is exactly that. While we all fight over racial differences, the elite get richer. Don't be fooled.
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Post by haulierp on Jul 26, 2016 15:53:55 GMT
A French catholic priest this time, shot dead by IS sympathisers. All these goings on in France and Germany of late makes me wonder about multi culturalism and relatively open borders. Those who questioned this in the past were instantly condemned as racists, bigots, meat heads, little Englanders etc. etc. Current happenings might suggest that the reality is that these were the wise ones, a small vilified minority in a sea of politically correct, multi cultural supporting fools. Could we now say that the 'rivers of blood' speech, held up for decades as the perfect example of bigotry, was in fact a work of wisdom and great vision? If not, and the current flow of blood is considered to be a trickle, how many people need to die before the trickle is accepted as a river? Is multi culturalism an experiment; one heisted upon the people without their agreement by cleverly engineered cultural change; together with supporting laws; that may one day be seen as the greatest failed experiment in the history of mankind? Another absolute outrage perpetrated by these scum,according to sky it was filmed by the the killers also. I have never had any interest in Multiculturalism whatsoever,the real situation is that we are a society of different cultures that in the main never mix and that is of course something completely different.It is important that we divorce this from immigration that being the topic of Enoch Powells speech all those years ago. We have a long connection with both India whom we exploited mercilessly and the West Indies which we populated with slave labour,these people of course fought alongside us in the last war and made an important contribution to our Economic Growth afterwards. Capitalism and its need for Labour along with various Elected Governments bear the main responsibility for Multi Culturalism, the rest borne by various disasters and wars etc.Perhaps we should be looking at ours and other Governments disastrous policy of Interventionism under the guise of bringing Democracy, when in actual fact all they want is regime change. I therefore don't believe Multiculturalism is an experiment but simply a by product of what I have said.
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Post by haulierp on Jul 26, 2016 15:58:54 GMT
A French catholic priest this time, shot dead by IS sympathisers. All these goings on in France and Germany of late makes me wonder about multi culturalism and relatively open borders. Those who questioned this in the past were instantly condemned as racists, bigots, meat heads, little Englanders etc. etc. Current happenings might suggest that the reality is that these were the wise ones, a small vilified minority in a sea of politically correct, multi cultural supporting fools. Could we now say that the 'rivers of blood' speech, held up for decades as the perfect example of bigotry, was in fact a work of wisdom and great vision? If not, and the current flow of blood is considered to be a trickle, how many people need to die before the trickle is accepted as a river? Is multi culturalism an experiment; one heisted upon the people without their agreement by cleverly engineered cultural change; together with supporting laws; that may one day be seen as the greatest failed experiment in the history of mankind? The question to ask is, what result is being achieved by this in the big picture? My view is that it's about control and money again (disregarding the odd nutter). Fear tactics undermine and control the minds of the public. Terrorism is exactly that. While we all fight over racial differences, the elite get richer. Don't be fooled. I don't think we are all fighting over Racial Differences,the Germans aren't fighting nor the French.We are clearly under attack from Islamic Extremists. How much the current situation reflects on disastrous Interventionist Foreign Policy would be perhaps, a more cogent viewpoint.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 16:01:36 GMT
The question to ask is, what result is being achieved by this in the big picture? My view is that it's about control and money again (disregarding the odd nutter). Fear tactics undermine and control the minds of the public. Terrorism is exactly that. While we all fight over racial differences, the elite get richer. Don't be fooled. I don't think we are all fighting over Racial Differences,the Germans aren't fighting nor the French.We are clearly under attack from Islamic Extremists. How much the current situation reflects on disastrous Interventionist Foreign Policy would be perhaps, a more cogent viewpoint. Where do you think the IS funding comes from?
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Post by haulierp on Jul 26, 2016 16:04:14 GMT
I don't think we are all fighting over Racial Differences,the Germans aren't fighting nor the French.We are clearly under attack from Islamic Extremists. How much the current situation reflects on disastrous Interventionist Foreign Policy would be perhaps, a more cogent viewpoint. Where do you think the IS funding comes from? It must ultimately come from Capitalism,I don't disagree with your post,only that one point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 16:14:38 GMT
Where do you think the IS funding comes from? It must ultimately come from Capitalism,I don't disagree with your post,only that one point. I was reponding to Ricco's doubts about multiculturalism and open borders. There has apparently been an increase in racial attacks as a result of recent terrorist events (if one is to believe the police commission stats and the media's reporting of them of course).
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Post by PaulG2 on Jul 26, 2016 16:25:49 GMT
I don't think we are all fighting over Racial Differences,the Germans aren't fighting nor the French.We are clearly under attack from Islamic Extremists. How much the current situation reflects on disastrous Interventionist Foreign Policy would be perhaps, a more cogent viewpoint. Where do you think the IS funding comes from? Saudi Arabia, mostly. But Qatar, the UAE and some of the other Gulf states are supporters too. For a long time Turkey, our supposed NATO ally, was providing funding by buying the oil IS stole from Syria and Iraq. It took Russia to put a stop to that by destroying their transport mechanisms. Syria (Assad), Russia, Iran and the Kurds are the only real threat to IS, yet we define the first three as our adversaries and throw the Kurds under the bus in order to kiss Erdogan's ass.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 17:30:34 GMT
Where do you think the IS funding comes from? Saudi Arabia, mostly. But Qatar, the UAE and some of the other Gulf states are supporters too. For a long time Turkey, our supposed NATO ally, was providing funding by buying the oil IS stole from Syria and Iraq. It took Russia to put a stop to that by destroying their transport mechanisms. Syria (Assad), Russia, Iran and the Kurds are the only real threat to IS, yet we define the first three as our adversaries and throw the Kurds under the bus in order to kiss Erdogan's ass. ...and where did/does Saudi get most of their money from?
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Post by haulierp on Jul 26, 2016 17:54:55 GMT
Saudi Arabia, mostly. But Qatar, the UAE and some of the other Gulf states are supporters too. For a long time Turkey, our supposed NATO ally, was providing funding by buying the oil IS stole from Syria and Iraq. It took Russia to put a stop to that by destroying their transport mechanisms. Syria (Assad), Russia, Iran and the Kurds are the only real threat to IS, yet we define the first three as our adversaries and throw the Kurds under the bus in order to kiss Erdogan's ass. ...and where did/does Saudi get most of their money from? I think what your generally alluding to is that the powers that be have a vested interest in keeping us divided so that no world consensus can emerge. We are therefore more easily controlled if things are kept on a knife edge by War and Terror while the rich get richer and maintain control
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 17:57:02 GMT
A French catholic priest this time, shot dead by IS sympathisers. All these goings on in France and Germany of late makes me wonder about multi culturalism and relatively open borders. Those who questioned this in the past were instantly condemned as racists, bigots, meat heads, little Englanders etc. etc. Current happenings might suggest that the reality is that these were the wise ones, a small vilified minority in a sea of politically correct, multi cultural supporting fools. Could we now say that the 'rivers of blood' speech, held up for decades as the perfect example of bigotry, was in fact a work of wisdom and great vision? If not, and the current flow of blood is considered to be a trickle, how many people need to die before the trickle is accepted as a river? Is multi culturalism an experiment; one heisted upon the people without their agreement by cleverly engineered cultural change; together with supporting laws; that may one day be seen as the greatest failed experiment in the history of mankind? Well as a complete misunderstanding of what some of us have said in the past that is a pretty good effort. what was condemned as racism was the oft made assumption by some that all people who were a 'little bit brown skinned' potentially posed a risk to us as terrorists. This was and still is complete nonsense. These latest attacks including the one today are the work of psychopaths with serious mental health problems otherwise how could they possibly carry through such a thing? of course they claim allegiance to IS and of course IS claim them as their 'soldiers' but the reality is the numbers of people willing to carry out such a despicable thing as what happened today in Normandy are in the massive minority, if we lose sight of that and see all of the Muslim community as a risk we are on a very slippery soap. think back to the 70's, did we see all Irish people as potential terrorists? No we didn't so what's different here, I'll tell you what, a deep seated long standing distrust and dislike of people with a darker skin colour, of course some will deny it but what else can account for a deep dislike and distrust that results in lumping all of a group based in the actions of a few, that is where your 'ism' comes from plain and simple. If you do that that IS racism.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 26, 2016 17:57:58 GMT
ISIS funding comes from those who spend their money on kebabs. Why do u think there are so many kebab parlours everywhere?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 18:34:11 GMT
...and where did/does Saudi get most of their money from? I think what your generally alluding to is that the powers that be have a vested interest in keeping us divided so that no world consensus can emerge. We are therefore more easily controlled if things are kept on a knife edge by War and Terror while the rich get richer and maintain control It's worse than that. Most of us are part of the world's capitalist machine, so we are partly guilty of allowing the funding. It's partially an own goal.
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Post by haulierp on Jul 26, 2016 18:47:06 GMT
A French catholic priest this time, shot dead by IS sympathisers. All these goings on in France and Germany of late makes me wonder about multi culturalism and relatively open borders. Those who questioned this in the past were instantly condemned as racists, bigots, meat heads, little Englanders etc. etc. Current happenings might suggest that the reality is that these were the wise ones, a small vilified minority in a sea of politically correct, multi cultural supporting fools. Could we now say that the 'rivers of blood' speech, held up for decades as the perfect example of bigotry, was in fact a work of wisdom and great vision? If not, and the current flow of blood is considered to be a trickle, how many people need to die before the trickle is accepted as a river? Is multi culturalism an experiment; one heisted upon the people without their agreement by cleverly engineered cultural change; together with supporting laws; that may one day be seen as the greatest failed experiment in the history of mankind? Well as a complete misunderstanding of what some of us have said in the past that is a pretty good effort. what was condemned as racism was the oft made assumption by some that all people who were a 'little bit brown skinned' potentially posed a risk to us as terrorists. This was and still is complete nonsense. These latest attacks including the one today are the work of psychopaths with serious mental health problems otherwise how could they possibly carry through such a thing? of course they claim allegiance to IS and of course IS claim them as their 'soldiers' but the reality is the numbers of people willing to carry out such a despicable thing as what happened today in Normandy are in the massive minority, if we lose sight of that and see all of the Muslim community as a risk we are on a very slippery soap. think back to the 70's, did we see all Irish people as potential terrorists? No we didn't so what's different here, I'll tell you what, a deep seated long standing distrust and dislike of people with a darker skin colour, of course some will deny it but what else can account for a deep dislike and distrust that results in lumping all of a group based in the actions of a few, that is where your 'ism' comes from plain and simple. If you do that that IS racism. I don't think its quite as simple as that Martin and your comparison with the Irish situation is tenuous to say the least. Its that old Met Police Conundrum whereby they are accused of Racism for targeting young Black Males,despite the fact that statistically thats where the crime occurs.Muslims statistically provide the ethnic group from where Terrorist Attacks come,and I further suggest that the relative silence of Muslim Leaders condemning these outrages hasn't helped the PR either.
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Post by haulierp on Jul 26, 2016 19:00:15 GMT
I think what your generally alluding to is that the powers that be have a vested interest in keeping us divided so that no world consensus can emerge. We are therefore more easily controlled if things are kept on a knife edge by War and Terror while the rich get richer and maintain control It's worse than that. Most of us are part of the world's capitalist machine, so we are partly guilty of allowing the funding. It's partially an own goal. Its one of those where you want an armchair and plenty of time. I have always doubted the existence of this Illuminatti/Capitalist Cabal but I know you'd delight in putting me right
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