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Post by ammodels on Jul 27, 2016 19:20:16 GMT
No probably or possibly about it, according to your views you are a racist. You'd go down really well in Germany at the moment. cheers always good to know.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 27, 2016 19:26:37 GMT
If you disagree with another member's opinion, then feel free to state why. Don't just say "You're a racist" because all that is going to do is make everybody else think "You're an unintelligent and inarticulate wanker".
Just saying like.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 27, 2016 19:39:31 GMT
I've got nothing against Arabs or any other nationality or race or genetic-wotsit. I'd even be happy to have a dwarf give us a hand with painting our gas locker. I take each person as they come. But I have seen 5000 Somalis and observed their manners and I feel that the 5001st will probably be much the same. People I detest are the 2-faced who would call me a racist to impress their right-on friends, whilst they themselves regard 'foreigners' as filth, and live in neighbourhoods occupied only by 'people they wish to mingle with' (ie. no foreigners).
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 27, 2016 19:50:13 GMT
I reckon ammodels is one of Sabcat's sock puppets.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 27, 2016 19:50:17 GMT
Plenty of foreigners up here where I am but they haven't twigged who I am yet -'Northerners' they're called. Flat caps, racing pigeons, black pudding and ferrets in their pockets! Burnley is Babylon! Errr....
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Post by haulierp on Jul 27, 2016 19:53:09 GMT
Well let me put my cards on the table,I am with Donald Trump,I don't want any Muslim refugees in this country, simply because we can't define who they are and what their motives may be.
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Post by haulierp on Jul 27, 2016 19:55:12 GMT
I reckon ammodels is one of Sabcat's sock puppets. I think AMModels has a valid point of view,I just don't happen to share it. Does anyone else think that all those old parameters of what once would be considered Racist are now barely valid.Post Brexit British People view things totally different from that London Centric Liberal Elite.I think that a large section of the Population are tired of being talked down to over the benefits of the great "cultural melting pot",we just don't get it, its not our experience,we see NO BENEFITS
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 27, 2016 19:56:17 GMT
Plenty of foreigners up here where I am but they haven't twigged who I am yet -'Northerners' they're called. Flat caps, racing pigeons, black pudding and ferrets in their pockets! Burnley is Babylon! Errr.... The thing is though that people called "Arkwright" don't generally massacre young people at a pop concert because they disapprove of their habits.
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Post by PaulG2 on Jul 27, 2016 19:56:24 GMT
There are varying types of racism and varying degrees of racism. Middle Easterners, for a large part are very racist. But their is not just about outsiders, it is reduced down to a tribal/ethnic level as well as to the level of which particular cult of their religion you subscribe to - Sunni vs. Shi'a vs. Safti vs. Sufi etc. Many of those people carry their racism to the extreme as witnessed by the violence by the violence that prevails everywhere we have removed the strong governance necessary to control their insane bloodlusts and millennia long feuds. Then you have Chinese-style racism, which is actually rather benign. The Chinese name for China is which is Zhong Guo in Pinyin (pr. jong go' ah). It means "Middle Kingdom", with the idea there being that China is the center of the earth, and all things on earth more or less revolve around or radiate from China. The Chinese are quite racist in that they think they are better than everyone else on earth. This, however, does not mean they think everyone else is bad, quite the opposite. They have good opinions of other people and other cultures and recognize that other cultures and other people are quite good. They just think they are better. When you think about it, if you are better than everyone else, then the better everyone else is, the better that makes you.
It's human nature to be tribal, which means it is human nature to be racist. It's much more important to focus on how someone leads their life, and how they treat their fellow human beings, than it is to judge them on the basis of a strict dictionary definition of how they feel.
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Post by ammodels on Jul 27, 2016 20:00:15 GMT
If you disagree with another member's opinion, then feel free to state why. Don't just say "You're a racist" because all that is going to do is make everybody else think "You're an unintelligent and inarticulate wanker". Just saying like. I did and I didnt just say youre a racist I pointed out why I thought that based on what foxy wrote, I even quoted what he said to back up that viewpoint. The fact you didnt bother to actually read the whole post and just immediately jumped in as you did makes you an unintelligent and inarticulate wanker. (I didnt even bother trying to pretend I was making an observation, no need to really)
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 27, 2016 20:00:57 GMT
If it's racist to judge everyone by the actions of a few the Olympic committee are a fine example of racism in action. A number of Russians get caught doping and others have their results covered up by the Russian government. This must mean, in the eyes of the Olympic committee, that all Russians are drug cheats. Lacking the balls to go ahead with their original racist decision, they leave it to the discretion of individual sports governing bodies.
Hell, if they are going to be so bigoted why not scrap the Paralympic games? they must know that very few people watch them and those who do only do so out of pity.
It's a good job our government aren't similarly racist. If they were you wouldn't be able to move at the airports right now for hordes of Muslims in the process of deportation.
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Post by ammodels on Jul 27, 2016 20:05:17 GMT
I've got nothing against Arabs or any other nationality or race or genetic-wotsit. I'd even be happy to have a dwarf give us a hand with painting our gas locker. I take each person as they come. But I have seen 5000 Somalis and observed their manners and I feel that the 5001st will probably be much the same. People I detest are the 2-faced who would call me a racist to impress their right-on friends, whilst they themselves regard 'foreigners' as filth, and live in neighbourhoods occupied only by 'people they wish to mingle with' (ie. no foreigners). 5000 exactly or just thereabouts? I dont doubt those youve met have behaved the way you say they did, it might have something to do with attitudes towards them from those you saw the interacting with or it may not, but I wouldnt describe all Somalis on that basis as you did with Arabs, I might expect the next one to behave as the others did but thats a completely different thing altogether as we discussed earlier.
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Post by ammodels on Jul 27, 2016 20:06:16 GMT
If it's racist to judge everyone by the actions of a few the Olympic committee are a fine example of racism in action. A number of Russians get caught doping and others have their results covered up by the Russian government. This must mean, in the eyes of the Olympic committee, that all Russians are drug cheats. Lacking the balls to go ahead with their original racist decision, they leave it to the discretion of individual sports governing bodies. Hell, if they are going to be so bigoted why not scrap the Paralympic games? they must know that very few people watch them and those who do only do so out of pity. It's a good job our government aren't similarly racist. If they were you wouldn't be able to move at the airports right now for hordes of Muslims in the process of deportation. I love reading your posts, reminds me that Im not the most stupid person in the world by at least one.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 27, 2016 20:20:16 GMT
So, if a number of Russians cheat and they are all treated as cheats it's 'stupid' to consider this a racist decision.
On the other hand, someone who meets 5000, or 5001 Somalis and finds them unpleasant and therefore considers most Somalis to be unpleasant is a nasty racist person.
Ermmm.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 27, 2016 20:20:18 GMT
Well, I'm lost in this discussion. But if I saw a Middle Eastern / Arab in trouble I would certainly consider helping them. First steps before judgement. I suppose I speak my mind too freely, but to be fair you should know me for, say, a year before making up your mind whether I'm nice or nasty. And so to bed... left the chimney puffing away... cosy when we get back. Or on fire!!!
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