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Post by haulierp on Jul 27, 2016 16:11:47 GMT
its a puzzlement to me all that killing of inoccents, but it isnt making me like muslims or trust thhem hilda I think your right Hilda and most people think as you do.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 27, 2016 18:01:34 GMT
But when the millions all support 'the few' I'd say, yup, I treat them all with suspicion.
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Post by ammodels on Jul 27, 2016 18:08:31 GMT
If it walks like a racist, quacks like a racist and is a racist its probably a racist. Or something like that. It is racist to judge a whole group by the actions of a few, even if that few number in the thousands they are still few in relation to the total group. I don't think its a question of Racism in the General Publics eyes,I think its more a case of these people don't integrate and if they are trouble then we don't want them.Protectionism more than anything else.Sharia Courts,Honour Killings,Rape of white kids by Asian Gangs,FGM,Today we have a young Muslim Girl in Wales found kept in a cage because she was becoming too Westernised.My friend,we have problems with Muslims in this country. To say its not all of them means nothing, the same as saying that not all Germans were responsible for the Holocaust. Fall in love with a young Muslim Girl in your office or factory and see how long it takes you to meet the Parents,in some parts of Britain you would both be murdered quicker. I dont think I was clear, I was saying some of what Foxy wrote was to my eyes racist. You cant judge a race or a religion by the actions of a small number no matter how extreme those actions are, you can judge or at least rate the likelihood of certain actions based on religion or ethnicity without going anywhere near being racist. ( I dont accept the Islam is not a race bullshit, its the same prejudice in my eyes) The aim of IS who I dont view as muslims but as some wierd anti homo sapien death cult, is to destroy the world and then get to the afterlife as martyrs, they are doing very well in it so far, they are dividing us more and more with their actions, I would suggest that means they are cleverer than we are if we cant combat that drive. I think Multiculturalism is a busted flush, it means different things depending who says it. To me it should be people from all around the world living in harmony according to their own beliefs but within the framework of the country they reside in, to all too many people it means small disparate communities with little or no connection to each other or the country of residence and living according to their own rules. It should be made plain you live in the UK you conform to our laws and our rules, I dont care about Halal food, if thats what muslims want to eat fine but it shouldnt be seen as the preferred method of slaughter just to not offend muslims. TBH none of the muslims I speak to feel halal should be the norm either, neither are they allergic or offended by pork, or cartoons of allah/mohamed and they laugh at racists who draw pictures or mock up shit that seeks to play on these supposed insults. They have a right laugh at the pig masks on BNP/EDL marches, like me they think they improve the vista when worn over the faces of the twats.
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Post by ammodels on Jul 27, 2016 18:09:25 GMT
its a puzzlement to me all that killing of inoccents, but it isnt making me like muslims or trust thhem hilda its not meant to, its meant to make you hate muslims and Islam. They dont want to convert you they want you to hate them so they can fight a big war against the west and die as martyrs.
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Post by ammodels on Jul 27, 2016 18:10:04 GMT
But when the millions all support 'the few' I'd say, yup, I treat them all with suspicion. they dont. and its billions. 1.6 billion Muslims.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 27, 2016 18:10:48 GMT
Well, I probably am possibly 'racist' but I haven't blown anyone up or thrown acid in anyone's face. What am I doing wrong? I have chucked several spiders in the Cut though!
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Post by ammodels on Jul 27, 2016 18:14:40 GMT
Well, I probably am possibly 'racist' but I haven't blown anyone up or thrown acid in anyone's face. What am I doing wrong? I have chucked several spiders in the Cut though! That, that is what you are doing wrong. Racist isnt a good thing, just because you havent maimed or killed anyone doesnt make what you say or think good.
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Post by ammodels on Jul 27, 2016 18:19:59 GMT
they dont. and its billions. 1.6 billion Muslims. Worse than I thought then. No probably or possibly about it, according to your views you are a racist.
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Post by PaulG2 on Jul 27, 2016 18:29:07 GMT
Imagine if large numbers of Westerners decided to emigrate to Qatar, or the UAE or Iraq, Saudi Arabia or any other Middle East country. To begin with, any such large-scale, permanent residency immigration is prohibited in those countries, but, just for the sake of argument, imagine the Westerners entered illegally and set up shop. Oops, that example won't work. Those folks would be sent to prison then be immediately deported upon release.
Okay, let's just imagine the laws were different in those countries and such immigration were allowed. Now imagine that all those Westerners settled in the same geographic area in certain cities and took over blocks and blocks of those cities and then opened up christian churches and pubs and night clubs and gentlemen's clubs (strip joints) and liquor stores and pig farms and movie houses showing Western movies, you get the picture. Say they set up Little Londons and Little L.A.s in various major cities throughout the Middle East.....
Putting aside the fact that this would never be allowed in the first place, how long does anyone think this would be tolerated? The answer, of course, is not for a nanosecond. And all the politically correct folks looking at this hypothetical would say, "Well, of course you couldn't expect that to be tolerated because it offends their religious beliefs and their cultural beliefs."
And yet, when Middle Easterners immigrate to Western nations they do exactly what I have described, except in conformance with their religious and cultural norms, and we are supposed to just sit back and accept it.
There are a lot of Middle Easterners and Asians that move to Western countries and then assimilate into our culture and our way of life. If you dislike or discriminate against those people just because of who they are, then you are a racist. On the other hand, if you dislike and discriminate against those people who immigrate and then insist upon keeping their backwards cultures and absurd religious beliefs, and expect their host country to adapt to their desires, you are not a racist, you are just a human being who happens to like their own culture and don't want their way of life, or even their very lives, to be affected by ungrateful strangers who should have stayed home if they thought it was so great there.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 27, 2016 18:53:46 GMT
Worse than I thought then. No probably or possibly about it, according to your views you are a racist. Do yourself a favour, if you want to play the "racist card" then fuck off back to CWDF. You won't be banned for playing it here, but your thesis will be demolished by your fellow forum members. If you have a sensible argument then please present it, just don't bother with the "name-calling".
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Post by ammodels on Jul 27, 2016 19:03:01 GMT
Fuck off with ya, read what he said and tell me its not the dictionary definition of racism.
Its not a racism card ya sad twat, its just calling something what it is.
Demolish away if you can.. Make me fucking laugh.
That is defining a race or a whole religion by the actions of part of it.
There Ive even helped you out with the fucking definition.
If you want a serious discussion then have it but dont come out all guns blazing trying to defend racism by claiming someone is 'playing the racism card' cos it wont fucking wash.
I agree with your assertion higher in the thread that to be wary of a group because you are more likely to experience a certain response or set of actions from them is not racism, it is sensible. But to assert as foxy did is racism.
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Post by ammodels on Jul 27, 2016 19:09:14 GMT
Not really. It would not be unreasonable to assume you would be more likely to get your head kicked in by a gang of Millwall supporters than a bunch of pink-haired old ladies, or to cross the road to walk through the latter group rather than the former even if you had never met any of the people involved in that scenario. There's no "prejudice" in that assumption, merely an understanding of the laws of probability. The media has twisted our perception of the laws of probability. For example, how many people get murdered in this country (or the USA) every year (without the media attending to racial motives)? This can work both ways though, it raises the awareness of religious killings or those attributed to IS or for example those of Blacks by US police but reduces or ignores many other types of killing. The majority of killings in this country are by family members, maybe they are the real enemy and should be deported or banned from wearing wedding rings?
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 27, 2016 19:11:41 GMT
Worse than I thought then. No probably or possibly about it, according to your views you are a racist. Oh dear.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 27, 2016 19:16:28 GMT
Worse than I thought then. No probably or possibly about it, according to your views you are a racist. You'd go down really well in Germany at the moment.
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Post by ammodels on Jul 27, 2016 19:19:50 GMT
No probably or possibly about it, according to your views you are a racist. Oh dear. It cant have come as a surprise to you, you said it yourself? Do you judge arabs as a whole as you posted or do you not?
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