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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 20:22:04 GMT
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Post by marni on Jul 26, 2016 20:32:58 GMT
Such a shame for them.I really think people need to up their security as that is a bold theft if ever there was one.When we were in Barry Hawkins we all had each others phone numbers .If anyone went near a boat we called the owners,I know Mercia is a lot bigger though.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 26, 2016 20:55:59 GMT
Sounds like the thief knew exactly what he was doing, and sought out one particular boat. Furthermore, he had keys for that specific boat. He must have got those keys from somewhere.
To me, something smells a bit fishy here.
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Post by marni on Jul 26, 2016 21:09:24 GMT
Sounds like the thief knew exactly what he was doing, and sought out one particular boat. Furthermore, he had keys for that specific boat. He must have got those keys from somewhere. To me, something smells a bit fishy here. I would think he knows the boat for him to target it and to be at ease doing it.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 27, 2016 6:19:34 GMT
No worries - the marina CCTV at the entrance/exit will have taken a superb set of photos just like the Police speeding cameras, eh? Oh what - you're telling me they don't have cameras there? (even supermarkets have cameras which read your car registration plates, so you'd think a marina which charges £2000/boat/year would have the same. And it costs nothing as an American Corporation (ie Mafia) operates the cameras and collects the fines).
Did the surveyor have the key copied? Is this all the Police do nowadays, hand out 'crime numbers'?
What kind of starting key?
What can you do with a stolen boat? One day surely someone will see you fitting a new engine or... what else do boats have of value? Others will be in on this crime - you can't run fast in a narrowboat. Hidden - where, how? DNA at the marina - what would the thief have touched?
Weld a pointy nose on it and call it a 'Dutch barge'?
We'll look at we pass boats today down the Maccy. I saw the photo in CassyWorld.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 7:02:43 GMT
No worries - the marina CCTV at the entrance/exit will have taken a superb set of photos just like the Police speeding cameras, eh? Oh what - you're telling me they don't have cameras there? (even supermarkets have cameras which read your car registration plates, so you'd think a marina which charges £2000/boat/year would have the same. And it costs nothing as an American Corporation (ie Mafia) operates the cameras and collects the fines). Did the surveyor have the key copied? Is this all the Police do nowadays, hand out 'crime numbers'? What kind of starting key? What can you do with a stolen boat? One day surely someone will see you fitting a new engine or... what else do boats have of value? Others will be in on this crime - you can't run fast in a narrowboat. Hidden - where, how? DNA at the marina - what would the thief have touched? Weld a pointy nose on it and call it a 'Dutch barge'? We'll look at we pass boats today down the Maccy. I saw the photo in CassyWorld. Mercia does have CCTV but they have opted for it not to cover the pontoons, just the public areas. This was done for reasons of privacy. They also don't know exactly when the boat was stolen so CCTV is not going to be particularly helpful anyway.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 27, 2016 8:30:38 GMT
You'd think with all these American satellites circumnavigating the globe taking pics of Cheshire housewives hanging out their knickers on the washing line, that they could easily track this stolen boat.
Why don't boats have satellite trackers/mobile phone trackers installed?
Write your boat name in many secret places (eg. painted under seats). BMW use microdot paint - spotted on in places only known to them/the owner.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 11:15:38 GMT
You'd think with all these American satellites circumnavigating the globe taking pics of Cheshire housewives hanging out their knickers on the washing line, that they could easily track this stolen boat. Why don't boats have satellite trackers/mobile phone trackers installed? Write your boat name in many secret places (eg. painted under seats). BMW use microdot paint - spotted on in places only known to them/the owner. It is perfectly possible to fit tracking devices to boats. Some are passive and have to be activated when it is discovered that something has been stolen and some of the better ones are active and will trigger on detecting the unauthorised movement/theft. Our caravan has the former. However in the case of the former if several days have elapsed between the theft and the discovery the passive ones can often be useless (it also requires the police to be in the vicinity with the comparable system fitted to their vehicles). The 'active' ones like a phantom are much better but quite expensive, £800 for five years, but when compared to a boat cost possibly insignificant. I can't see why this couldn't be fitted to a boat. phantom.uk.net/caravan-and-motorhome-tracking
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 11:54:50 GMT
You'd think with all these American satellites circumnavigating the globe taking pics of Cheshire housewives hanging out their knickers on the washing line, that they could easily track this stolen boat. Why don't boats have satellite trackers/mobile phone trackers installed? Write your boat name in many secret places (eg. painted under seats). BMW use microdot paint - spotted on in places only known to them/the owner. It is perfectly possible to fit tracking devices to boats. Some are passive and have to be activated when it is discovered that something has been stolen and some of the better ones are active and will trigger on detecting the unauthorised movement/theft. Our caravan has the former. However in the case of the former if several days have elapsed between the theft and the discovery the passive ones can often be useless (it also requires the police to be in the vicinity with the comparable system fitted to their vehicles). The 'active' ones like a phantom are much better but quite expensive, £800 for five years, but when compared to a boat cost possibly insignificant. I can't see why this couldn't be fitted to a boat. phantom.uk.net/caravan-and-motorhome-tracking The whole idea of stealing a narrow boat seems silly unless they have inside knowledge and know that the owner will not be around for a long time. The best form of security is being on board and keeping your personal plans and movements to yourself.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 27, 2016 12:12:34 GMT
I do hope Kris attaches a tracking device to his new inside-outhouse; now the whole world has seen it it's Red Hot Shit!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 13:21:44 GMT
It is perfectly possible to fit tracking devices to boats. Some are passive and have to be activated when it is discovered that something has been stolen and some of the better ones are active and will trigger on detecting the unauthorised movement/theft. Our caravan has the former. However in the case of the former if several days have elapsed between the theft and the discovery the passive ones can often be useless (it also requires the police to be in the vicinity with the comparable system fitted to their vehicles). The 'active' ones like a phantom are much better but quite expensive, £800 for five years, but when compared to a boat cost possibly insignificant. I can't see why this couldn't be fitted to a boat. phantom.uk.net/caravan-and-motorhome-tracking The best form of security is being on board and keeping your personal plans and movements to yourself. Definitely, but leisure boaters don't always have the luxury of being able to do that. Our boat could stand on it's very isolated LTM mooring at Pollington for up to two or three weeks at a time sometimes. Matty40's manged to get it from there to Weedon on the GU in around a week when he moved it for us, so the boat could have been long gone and repainted well before we even knew it was missing.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 27, 2016 15:33:51 GMT
Surely there's more to stealing a boat than just re-painting it though? What about registration for example, wouldn't CRT be a tad suspicious if you applied for a registration for a boat which was several years old?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 15:50:30 GMT
The best form of security is being on board and keeping your personal plans and movements to yourself. Definitely, but leisure boaters don't always have the luxury of being able to do that. Our boat could stand on it's very isolated LTM mooring at Pollington for up to two or three weeks at a time sometimes. Matty40's manged to get it from there to Weedon on the GU in around a week when he moved it for us, so the boat could have been long gone and repainted well before we even knew it was missing. Yes, I believe we were moored at Weedon at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 15:59:15 GMT
Surely there's more to stealing a boat than just re-painting it though? What about registration for example, wouldn't CRT be a tad suspicious if you applied for a registration for a boat which was several years old? But I've thought about this, What checks do they do to ensure you are telling the truth about a boats age? Never having registered a 'new ' boat (or one that I've nicked and am claiming it's new) I genuinely don't know the answer.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 27, 2016 16:04:53 GMT
Surely there's more to stealing a boat than just re-painting it though? What about registration for example, wouldn't CRT be a tad suspicious if you applied for a registration for a boat which was several years old? But I've thought about this, What checks do they do to ensure you are telling the truth about a boats age? Yes, I don't know the answer but I'm curious to learn. I thought new boats had to have some type of recreational craft certificate, would CRT not want to see this before they issued a registration? If not, then perhaps they should? It would not be overly difficult, IMHO, for CRT to identify a stolen boat which has a registration applied for, for example by insisting on inspecting a boat about which there is any grey area?
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