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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 19:03:50 GMT
The lockdown will happen, I'd just rather it happened in short and sharp spurts rather than going on for months like last time. My mental health is already suffering at the thought of another long term lockdown. Not being funny or anything - but what elevates your worries above mine? Nothing, which is why I even went to the point of expressing that this was my view in some of my posts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 19:14:13 GMT
These are difficult times ... particularly for the workforce ... and I hope we can all 'sound off' a bit here as it's good for the soul to do so. Ultimately I believe we'll all follow the guidance and accept our responsibility for our personal and family's health. I believe some of the options being discussed are ridiculous and futile, but I understand everyone's deeply concerned and that the discussions are driven by good intentions even when I disagree. Hope we can all come through this healthy in mind, body and wallet Rog
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 19:16:43 GMT
The problem is there are no travel restrictions in place so someone from a tier 3 area can go to a tier 1 area increasing the chance of spreading the virus. Having said that there was a campsite on the local news tonight who is going through his bookings checking the postcode of the person coming, and then cancelling the booking if its tier 3, advising against coming if tier 2 the bloke has the right idea. We need a travel/overnight stay ban as well as the 3 tiers. Tier 3; Avoid non-essential travel Travel outside area advised against Avoid staying overnight in another part of the UK if resident in a Tier 3 area But not banned or mandatory legally. I think there is little doubt that the restrictions are to allow the NHS in the affected areas to take a breath and try and keep on top of things. Whether it is the young or the old causing the rise in cases the fact is that hospital admissions are rising rapidly. Their staff deseerve a breather.
And you think people will take notice of a no travel request. I don't think so. Which is why it has to be mandated with fines if caught, doubling for each offence.
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Post by metanoia on Oct 15, 2020 19:23:10 GMT
The lockdown will happen, I'd just rather it happened in short and sharp spurts rather than going on for months like last time. My mental health is already suffering at the thought of another long term lockdown. Not being funny or anything - but what elevates your worries above mine? Another national lockdown screws me over again. My wife works on the frontline at KGH, miraculously we have avoided the dreaded lurgy despite a couple of close calls. By in large it's because we have made double sure that outside of the things we can't control (work and childcare) we have done our level best ((at some personal sacrifice) to avoid being in situations where we may be exposed to others who couldn't give a shit. Why should we come to a standstill once again just to ease your worries? Granted; It's not a pissing competition, but as dogless has said - nationwide lockdowns don't work. Keep safe, well and sane in all this sadness, madness and badness. It's you and your lovely family who are bearing the brunt of all this sh*t and I and - I hope - many others feel for you. met x
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 20:30:01 GMT
Not being funny or anything - but what elevates your worries above mine? Another national lockdown screws me over again. My wife works on the frontline at KGH, miraculously we have avoided the dreaded lurgy despite a couple of close calls. By in large it's because we have made double sure that outside of the things we can't control (work and childcare) we have done our level best ((at some personal sacrifice) to avoid being in situations where we may be exposed to others who couldn't give a shit. Why should we come to a standstill once again just to ease your worries? Granted; It's not a pissing competition, but as dogless has said - nationwide lockdowns don't work. Keep safe, well and sane in all this sadness, madness and badness. It's you and your lovely family who are bearing the brunt of all this sh*t and I and - I hope - many others feel for you.Β met x Thanks Met πππ» My biggest worry this time around is the school's shutting down - not so much for our daughter, she has plenty of time, help and support on hand; more so for those that don't and run the real risk of being a lost generation in terms of educational achievement. I can forego the pub and restaurants, the boat is on dry land for the next few months so that won't be as big a wrench as it was from March - July! work are understanding and supportive - bar for paying a full wage for part-time hours! Even that I can sort of cope with a second time around. I know I'm in danger of that legendary Simpsons meme - Won't somebody think of the kids?! But honestly, the long-term impact to the youngsters, be that those in or just about to leave education weighs heavier on my mind than a lot of the other day to day issues Covid 19 has brought about π
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 22:03:45 GMT
Not being funny or anything - but what elevates your worries above mine? Nothing, which is why I even went to the point of expressing that this was my view in some of my posts. Some people have no idea what living with anxiety is like. I don't mean part time anxiety due to unforeseen circumstances I mean worrying about everything, all the time for your whole life regardless of your circumstances. It can really fuck with your mental health.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 15, 2020 22:14:05 GMT
Maybe it's time for a re think regarding the enforcement of covid rules. Rather than having police aided by 'covid marshalls' lurking on street corners looking out for groups of 7, or storming into pubs demanding to know if folk on 2 separate tables know each other, how about:
Scrap all the above. Instead, if someone tests positive for covid, issue them with a Β£1,000 fine along with their positive test result. This is fair, they wouldn't have caught covid if they'd been behaving within the rules.
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Post by quaysider on Oct 16, 2020 5:52:00 GMT
Maybe it's time for a re think regarding the enforcement of covid rules. Rather than having police aided by 'covid marshalls' lurking on street corners looking out for groups of 7, or storming into pubs demanding to know if folk on 2 separate tables know each other, how about: Scrap all the above. Instead, if someone tests positive for covid, issue them with a Β£1,000 fine along with their positive test result. This is fair, they wouldn't have caught covid if they'd been behaving within the rules. I can see where you are coming from but along the same lines, if someone who once went past a smoker in the street develops lung cancer, do we do the same for them? - or any one who's ever had a can of beer developed some form of liver disease?
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Post by ianali on Oct 16, 2020 6:32:21 GMT
Maybe it's time for a re think regarding the enforcement of covid rules. Rather than having police aided by 'covid marshalls' lurking on street corners looking out for groups of 7, or storming into pubs demanding to know if folk on 2 separate tables know each other, how about: Scrap all the above. Instead, if someone tests positive for covid, issue them with a Β£1,000 fine along with their positive test result. This is fair, they wouldn't have caught covid if they'd been behaving within the rules. There will be lots of doctors and nurses fined then.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 6:41:27 GMT
I've been working this month in a retail stockroom with three colleagues ... our work stations are about ten feet apart and we have our backs to each other ... there is no direct or face to face contact. One has been told to get tested after feeling unwell ... we have all been notified and are awaiting the test results although we all feel fine. If the result proves positive I suppose we will be sent home and advised to be tested. We have not broken any of the guidance so why Clinton Cool should we be fined ? Rog
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Post by ianali on Oct 16, 2020 6:46:21 GMT
I've been working this month in a retail stockroom with three colleagues ... our work stations are about ten feet apart and we have our backs to each other ... there is no direct or face to face contact. One has been told to get tested after feeling unwell ... we have all been notified and are awaiting the test results although we all feel fine. If the result proves positive I suppose we will be sent home and advised to be tested. We have not broken any of the guidance so why Clinton Cool should we be fined ? Rog I wonder will you be sent home, or tested? As I said earlier, daughters boyfriends workplace has cases, up too nineteen I think as of yesterday. Heβs not been sent home or tested. Maybe itβs a proximity thing? He is in maintenance, so wanders all over the shop.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 6:56:30 GMT
I hope my colleague is negative and that, selfishly, I don't have to find out what the next step is Rog ETA I see @blacksheep has deleted his account ... hope all is well with him and he returns ... we all need somewhere to 'sound-off' safely.
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Post by lollygagger on Oct 16, 2020 7:34:51 GMT
Mr Blacksheep could do with a stabilising (blood relative family) influence in his life. Having lived with "worriers" for decades I know what a huge difference that makes and I don't actually DO anything clever, but leave the worrier for a year and everything goes to shit for them and it takes twice as long (and the rest!) to get back on some sort of even keel. I say fammily because frankly who else is going to bother "being there" possibly for ever.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 16, 2020 7:35:47 GMT
I've been working this month in a retail stockroom with three colleagues ... our work stations are about ten feet apart and we have our backs to each other ... there is no direct or face to face contact. One has been told to get tested after feeling unwell ... we have all been notified and are awaiting the test results although we all feel fine. If the result proves positive I suppose we will be sent home and advised to be tested. We have not broken any of the guidance so why Clinton Cool should we be fined ? Rog The thing is, my suggestions aren't always 100% serious. Still, some kind of incentive not to catch it, along with the existing incentive not to behave in a way likely to pass it on, might not be the worst idea. I mean, if a group of people get together in a 'dangerous' way the chances of them being 'caught and fined' are vanishingly low. Somebody testing positive though is some kind of proof that distancing and other measures have not been complied with. Sure, some people are at risk of catching it through their valuable work but not everybody catching covid is a nurse or an ambulance worker.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 7:40:57 GMT
Maybe rather than a fine of Β£1,000 there could be a culling regime.
Anyone testing positive to be executed on site. Exclusions to include people with minor aged chidren.
That'll show 'em.
Too many people about already. Overpopulation is going to do far worse things in the future.
Won't someone think of the children.
A proper cull out of unhealthy specimens will really tidy the place up.
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