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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 31, 2020 16:39:08 GMT
"Lockdown is a middle class privilege - the shelf stackers, the lorry drivers, sewer workers, police, till workers, builders, cleaners all have to carry on working." I wouldn't consider being virtually under house arrest to be "a privilege". I'm glad I can still go to work.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 17:11:12 GMT
Yes but you don't go to work to support a mortgage on a big house and an expensive car plus foreign holidays. It appears you just do it as a way to raise money for beer and boating. Which is sensible For people who have that life (big house, mortgage, maybe a BTL or two, shiny car, holidays in the Maldives etc I definitely think getting someone else to pay 80% of wages is quite handy while you just do other things. I'm sure if state support paid £40k a year a lot more people would be interested !! But then that is the opinion of someone with zero work ethic (me). So it could well be wrong in real terms..
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Post by Jim on Oct 31, 2020 17:30:13 GMT
"It can't be about saving the NHS. If we don't have a healthy economy, we don't have an NHS." "Lockdown is a middle class privilege - the shelf stackers, the lorry drivers, sewer workers, police, till workers, builders, cleaners all have to carry on working." "It's time for us to stop being servants of the NHS and for the NHS to serve US" Anybody can quote random shite made up by who knows who. What expertise do they have? What evidence to back what they say?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 17:33:05 GMT
"It can't be about saving the NHS. If we don't have a healthy economy, we don't have an NHS." "Lockdown is a middle class privilege - the shelf stackers, the lorry drivers, sewer workers, police, till workers, builders, cleaners all have to carry on working." "It's time for us to stop being servants of the NHS and for the NHS to serve US" Anybody can quote random shite made up by who knows who. What expertise do they have? What evidence to back what they say? Why do you think those three quotes are evidence based? They look reactionary to me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 18:10:50 GMT
I'M LIKE "YEAH YEAH YEAH JUST GET ON WITH THIS PRIME MINISTER STROKE HEAD BOY STATEMENT ! MAN AND STOP MESSING WITH YOUR HAIR".
OH MY GOD ITS "SORT IT OUT" INNIT ?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 31, 2020 18:14:35 GMT
Anybody can quote random shite made up by who knows who. What expertise do they have? What evidence to back what they say? Why do you think those three quotes are evidence based? They look reactionary to me. Well, in the case of the first statement it is fairly self-evident that the NHS is taxation-funded, and if that tax receipts are sharply reduced while public funding is diverted to furlough payments that this will eventually lead to financial problems within the NHS.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 18:17:35 GMT
Yes but it's pretty obvious this is only temporary. I wonder what happened to the economy after world war two.
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Post by patty on Oct 31, 2020 18:45:56 GMT
I had drafted out a long post but then decided the blinkered will never see
What I think is...Staff in the NHS are having leave cancelled We do not have enough staff to run Nightingale Hospitals The NHS is already struggling with the admissions.... If Lockdown will help our overburdened Health system I see no other way.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 31, 2020 18:47:14 GMT
Anybody can say Yeah, Yeah, Yeah!
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 31, 2020 18:50:05 GMT
Yes but it's pretty obvious this is only temporary. One of the most popular sayings of 1914 was that the war would be 'over by Christmas'.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 31, 2020 18:52:42 GMT
Yes but it's pretty obvious this is only temporary. I wonder what happened to the economy after world war two. There's no need to wonder, it is very well documented. There was 20 years of austerity and food and fuel rationing.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 31, 2020 18:54:57 GMT
We do not have enough staff to run Nightingale Hospitals How many are required? "MINISTERS spent £220million setting up and running temporary NHS coronavirus hospitals that have barely been used. Seven “Nightingales” were created in the last three months to cope with an expected surge in demand for beds. These were in London, Exeter, Bristol, Birmingham, Harrogate, Manchester and County Durham. But only London and Manchester are known to have treated patients, with the temporary site in the capital admitting just 54. All the hospitals are believed to currently be on “standby”." source: all newspapers
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 31, 2020 19:14:38 GMT
"It can't be about saving the NHS. If we don't have a healthy economy, we don't have an NHS." "Lockdown is a middle class privilege - the shelf stackers, the lorry drivers, sewer workers, police, till workers, builders, cleaners all have to carry on working." "It's time for us to stop being servants of the NHS and for the NHS to serve US" Anybody can quote random shite made up by who knows who. What expertise do they have? What evidence to back what they say? Why do you need 'evidence' to express an opinion? Those sentences were quite fair in my opinion. Oh... and now, how can I prove that I thought they were fair... what evidence do I have for my thoughts.... Yes, shop shelves are being stacked, bus drivers are shifting the masses, construction sites for buildings for the wealthy owners must go ahead. Workers must work. And 'businessmen' are allowed to fly for their 'work'. Everyone running round saying how hard the NHS staff are working - but few seem bothered that they haven't been offered any sort of pay rise or danger money. Surely the politicians' pay rises should all be cancelled, their absurd salaries cut, and that money ploughed into the NHS? There is also talk of NHS administration being silly - with money that needs to be frittered away before the end of a certain time limit (once a year?). Buy something (anything!) or lose the income. Inefficient. Wasteful. I like the idea of a NHS - run properly. The nation needs to be slapped into shape though, that'd help lots! Private medicine is for profit - and we all know that when BUPA and pals cock up someone's operation and can't stop the bleeding, they ship the patient pronto into the nearest NHS hospital, where the tax payers' funded system picks up the tab.
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Post by JohnV on Oct 31, 2020 19:30:23 GMT
We do not have enough staff to run Nightingale Hospitals How many are required? "MINISTERS spent £220million setting up and running temporary NHS coronavirus hospitals that have barely been used. Seven “Nightingales” were created in the last three months to cope with an expected surge in demand for beds. These were in London, Exeter, Bristol, Birmingham, Harrogate, Manchester and County Durham. But only London and Manchester are known to have treated patients, with the temporary site in the capital admitting just 54. All the hospitals are believed to currently be on “standby”." source: all newspapers Ross, you are a complete and utter twat ........ If they had not been built and readied but had been needed you would undoubtably have been bleating and rolling out your cut and pastes saying how terrible it was that tight fisted Conservatives had screwed us by not having emergency hospitals ready .... as I said you are a complete and utter twat
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 31, 2020 19:49:02 GMT
I may be a twat, but I think that £220 million would have been better spent giving the nurses a pay rise. Still, perhaps another round of clapping will cheer them up.
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