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Post by kris on Jun 8, 2017 17:34:34 GMT
how do you know what I'm doing by not voting? So now your telling me what I'm doing? By not taking part in the system of voting I'm not giving it any credence. We are governed by consent ( I suggest you look into this) well I don't give the professional political class consent to govern me ( no matter what flavour) I think there are better ways of organising society. It's about time we started thinking about different ways of doing things. By buying into the illusion of having power (voting every 5years or so) you are propping up an immoral and corrupt system. Ha Ha. By not voting you are doing nothing. Where do you get this 'we are governed by consent' ? Can you provide a link? If you don't vote, your opinions will not be taken into account. I profoundly disagree with your opinions but they are interesting. so now it's obvious you don't understand the system your supporting by voting. I'd suggest it is you who are being lazy by not educating yourself. Here you go. www.dictionary.com/browse/consent-of-the-governed |
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Post by lollygagger on Jun 8, 2017 17:40:49 GMT
The only democratic thing that's happened here in the past 40 years was Brexit and what a farce that was, with the entire establishment set against the will of the people. Even down to hoping the black and white nature of the question would frighten people into voting for more of the same.
Our political system has caused this country massive debt, money we didn't have has been wasted changing every fuckin thing under the sun every 5 years in persuit of the political ambitions of a few, many of whom on all sides treat it as some sort of game trying to outwit each other.
It's my view that after a lifetime of political consideration, repeating the establishment's messages isn't very imaginative.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 18:12:34 GMT
So Kepler you want stop becoming a totalitarian state by forcing people to vote? You don't come across as stupid, so surely you can see the contradiction in that. It's Kelper, not Kepler if you don't mind. I don't want to force people to vote, I want them to get their fat, lazy arses to the polling station and make their protest there. I have said this so many times. I think people should be able to register as too stupid or lazy to vote. How can you complain about the democratic process when you won't engage? Our system is far from perfect but it could be changed if enough people voted for the Lib-Dems. |
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Post by JohnV on Jun 8, 2017 18:15:36 GMT
So Kepler you want stop becoming a totalitarian state by forcing people to vote? You don't come across as stupid, so surely you can see the contradiction in that. It's Kelper, not Kepler if you don't mind. I don't want to force people to vote, I want them to get their fat, lazy arses to the polling station and make their protest there. I have said this so many times. I think people should be able to register as too stupid or lazy to vote. How can you complain about the democratic process when you won't engage? Our system is far from perfect but it could be changed if enough people voted for the Lib-Dems. I don't think there are that many Turkeys wanting to vote for Christmas |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 18:23:24 GMT
Ha Ha. By not voting you are doing nothing. Where do you get this 'we are governed by consent' ? Can you provide a link? If you don't vote, your opinions will not be taken into account. I profoundly disagree with your opinions but they are interesting. so now it's obvious you don't understand the system your supporting by voting. I'd suggest it is you who are being lazy by not educating yourself. Here you go. www.dictionary.com/browse/consent-of-the-governedErrr, the system of government in the UK is not dependent on a US dictionary's definition. We live in a Parliamentary democracy, thank goodness, where importnat decisions are debated and not decided by a plebocracy. Can you imagine the chaos if every decision currently taken by parliament was decided by a referendum? Brexit was decided by the ill-informed on emotional grounds. The 'will of the people' is so fickle I can't understand why it should be treated as a final decision. We should have left it to our elected representatives. |
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Post by thebfg on Jun 8, 2017 18:24:32 GMT
Ha Ha. By not voting you are doing nothing. Where do you get this 'we are governed by consent' ? Can you provide a link? If you don't vote, your opinions will not be taken into account. I profoundly disagree with your opinions but they are interesting. so now it's obvious you don't understand the system your supporting by voting. I'd suggest it is you who are being lazy by not educating yourself. Here you go. www.dictionary.com/browse/consent-of-the-governedBut we do have a legitimate government whether you give your consent or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 18:24:43 GMT
It's Kelper, not Kepler if you don't mind. I don't want to force people to vote, I want them to get their fat, lazy arses to the polling station and make their protest there. I have said this so many times. I think people should be able to register as too stupid or lazy to vote. How can you complain about the democratic process when you won't engage? Our system is far from perfect but it could be changed if enough people voted for the Lib-Dems. I don't think there are that many Turkeys wanting to vote for Christmas Probably one reason why turkeys can't vote in UK elections! |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 8, 2017 18:27:29 GMT
So Kepler you want stop becoming a totalitarian state by forcing people to vote? You don't come across as stupid, so surely you can see the contradiction in that. It's Kelper, not Kepler if you don't mind. I don't want to force people to vote, I want them to get their fat, lazy arses to the polling station and make their protest there. You'll probably find that the majority of voting abstainers are in the 18-25 age group so are less likely to be fat than average, and their decision not to vote is not due to laziness but because people of that age have far more enjoyable things to do with their time such as getting stoned and shagging. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 18:31:02 GMT
It's Kelper, not Kepler if you don't mind. I don't want to force people to vote, I want them to get their fat, lazy arses to the polling station and make their protest there. You'll probably find that the majority of voting abstainers are in the 18-25 age group so are less likely to be fat than average, and their decision not to vote is not due to laziness but because people of that age have far more enjoyable things to do with their time such as getting stoned and shagging. Well, that rather matches my label of 'lazy'. I don't think they have actively decided to not vote, I think they can't be arsed. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 8, 2017 18:34:19 GMT
You'll probably find that the majority of voting abstainers are in the 18-25 age group so are less likely to be fat than average, and their decision not to vote is not due to laziness but because people of that age have far more enjoyable things to do with their time such as getting stoned and shagging. Well, that rather matches my label of 'lazy'. I don't think they have actively decided to not vote, I think they can't be arsed. Well, if I had a choice of walking round to the polling station in the pissing rain or emptying my nuts into a horny 18 year old girl, I'd probably be lazy too. |
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Post by thebfg on Jun 8, 2017 18:39:40 GMT
Well, that rather matches my label of 'lazy'. I don't think they have actively decided to not vote, I think they can't be arsed. Well, if I had a choice of walking round to the polling station in the pissing rain or emptying my nuts into a horny 18 year old girl, I'd probably be lazy too. Probaly easier walking to the polling station that dealing with an 18 yo girl. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 18:40:00 GMT
True, but you could have pre-planned and got a postal vote. Or you could have poked her thrice and still had time to vote. It's not really an either-or.  |
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Post by kris on Jun 8, 2017 18:40:19 GMT
Errr, the system of government in the UK is not dependent on a US dictionary's definition. We live in a Parliamentary democracy, thank goodness, where importnat decisions are debated and not decided by a plebocracy. Can you imagine the chaos if every decision currently taken by parliament was decided by a referendum? Brexit was decided by the ill-informed on emotional grounds. The 'will of the people' is so fickle I can't understand why it should be treated as a final decision. We should have left it to our elected representatives. so now I realise you are stupid. You asked for a lnk, even though I have a bad internet connection I provided one. If you had used this as a starting point and continued on from it , you would have found out that the same idea of consent under pins the system in this country as well. But you don't really want to know do you. So I'll leave you with your illusion of power having voted. Supporting an immoral and corrupt system, or maybe you really think by voting something will change? |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 8, 2017 18:49:20 GMT
True, but you could have pre-planned and got a postal vote. Or you could have poked her thrice and still had time to vote. It's not really an either-or. Well, actually I do understand from my own boys, who are 18 and voting for the first time, that there will be an unusually high turnout among their peer group at this election. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 21:09:11 GMT
Errr, the system of government in the UK is not dependent on a US dictionary's definition. We live in a Parliamentary democracy, thank goodness, where important decisions are debated and not decided by a plebocracy. Can you imagine the chaos if every decision currently taken by parliament was decided by a referendum? Brexit was decided by the ill-informed on emotional grounds. The 'will of the people' is so fickle I can't understand why it should be treated as a final decision. We should have left it to our elected representatives. so now I realise you are stupid. You asked for a link, even though I have a bad internet connection I provided one. If you had used this as a starting point and continued on from it, you would have found out that the same idea of consent underpins the system in this country as well. But you don't really want to know, do you? So I'll leave you with your illusion of power having voted. Supporting an immoral and corrupt system, or maybe you really think by voting something will change? What can I learn from the link you posted? Your poor internet connection is no excuse. Dictionary.com is not really authoritative, is it? Your idea of democracy sounds like something out of Monty Python! www.imdb.com/character/ch0091184/quotes |
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