|
Post by naughtyfox on Jul 5, 2017 22:08:43 GMT
I didn't realise Volvo are Chinese owned. Siting waiting patiently for Foxy to blow a gasket and fill us with tales of woe at this news Yup - Volvo - the chicken-livered Swedes sold their workers down the drain. Spare parts now made by 6-year old Chinese boys (not girls - they murder those at birth) who are sweating that they may be sent to work in a Chinese coal mine or sent to milk yaks in Tibet. Volvo has lost its reputation. Alternator belts always squealed anyway. Stupid Swedes get what they order.
|
|
|
Post by peterboat on Jul 6, 2017 14:13:39 GMT
I cant see the problem really electric vehicles are the future, and if they cant tow caravans well its not an issue is it? I mean they could always buy a boat. In all seriousness electric vehicles deliver full torque at low speeds, so they are by far the best tow vehicles ever, and battery tech is now onto sodium batteries which will be as cheap as................salt so the cost factor is going to be gone as well. I am on with my electric boat or will be when I get back from holiday so all is rosy in my garden
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 15:11:03 GMT
I cant see the problem really electric vehicles are the future, and if they cant tow caravans well its not an issue is it? I mean they could always buy a boat. In all seriousness electric vehicles deliver full torque at low speeds, so they are by far the best tow vehicles ever, and battery tech is now onto sodium batteries which will be as cheap as................salt so the cost factor is going to be gone as well. I am on with my electric boat or will be when I get back from holiday so all is rosy in my garden People have towing requirements other than towing a caravan of course, some people's lively hoods depend on the ability to tow quite heavy trailers that is why I referenced towing in a generic sense rather than one single aspect. And as I already said electric can indeed make excellent tow cars. As soon as they are affordable I envisage I will have one.
|
|
|
Post by naughtyfox on Jul 6, 2017 21:12:38 GMT
Volvo declares all its cars electric by the year 2019. Everybody stops buying Volvos. Volvos share price drops through the floorboards. Bye bye Volvo!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 21:19:07 GMT
I've not seen it myself but apparently it's not unknown to see people on caravan sites recharging their electric vehicles from the EHU on the neighbouring pitch.....
For free of course.
|
|
|
Post by lollygagger on Jul 6, 2017 21:55:41 GMT
|
|
|
Post by naughtyfox on Jul 7, 2017 10:50:48 GMT
I lifted the cover to our saloon bilge to see if any water was down there and guess what came flooding out? Volvo shares!
Next time someone shows you their new Volvo exclaim: "Oh, you have a Chinese car!"
|
|
|
Post by IainS on Jul 7, 2017 11:06:01 GMT
The diesel engine has the potential to be a lot cleaner. A mate of mine is selling a system for HGVs that injects LPG into the inlet manifold, controlled by an additional ECU. The LPG crates a cleaner burn at lower temperature, which reduces NOx levels and has a dramatic result on particulates (which really represent wasted fuel, being mainly carbon). He claims that a Euro5 engine with this system passes the Euro7 emissions test comfortably, and that when the system is fitted to a Euro6 engine, the power output is increased to Euro5 levels, while emissions are even further below Euro7 levels. Due to the more complete burn, fuel costs are decreased by over 10%, even allowing for the cost of theLPG. I did enquire about the cost of fitting o a Land Rover, but the cost for development of the required ECU would be prohibitive for a one of. Comparisons of emissions between HGVs and diesel cars are quite illuminating : a car will produce far more pollution than a truck, a result driven by legislation
|
|
|
Post by peterboat on Jul 7, 2017 11:45:24 GMT
The diesel engine has the potential to be a lot cleaner. A mate of mine is selling a system for HGVs that injects LPG into the inlet manifold, controlled by an additional ECU. The LPG crates a cleaner burn at lower temperature, which reduces NOx levels and has a dramatic result on particulates (which really represent wasted fuel, being mainly carbon). He claims that a Euro5 engine with this system passes the Euro7 emissions test comfortably, and that when the system is fitted to a Euro6 engine, the power output is increased to Euro5 levels, while emissions are even further below Euro7 levels. Due to the more complete burn, fuel costs are decreased by over 10%, even allowing for the cost of theLPG. I did enquire about the cost of fitting o a Land Rover, but the cost for development of the required ECU would be prohibitive for a one of. Comparisons of emissions between HGVs and diesel cars are quite illuminating : a car will produce far more pollution than a truck, a result driven by legislation Nothing new about this I am afraid its been on the go for 15 years at least the take up was always poor when I was doing gas conversions, The lorry companies arnt interested they would rather fit £100 emission cheat devices than actually do something about pollution. I had something like it on my transit motorhome it was a vapour system that made that my 2.5 turbo DI really fly and was very clean no black soot anymore. The issues though for mass fitting were blown engines when mechanics/owners played with it to extract more power and people forgetting to put LPG in it even though it had a gauge
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 12:52:47 GMT
I remember when I was studying marine engineering in the 90s there was talk of injecting water vapour into the combustion chamber of diesel engines.
|
|
|
Post by lollygagger on Jul 7, 2017 13:09:39 GMT
I remember when I was studying marine engineering in the 90s there was talk of injecting water vapour into the combustion chamber of diesel engines. I recall hearing someone had done this with a fast boat. He had a switch and when switched on the engine was incredibly quiet. That was saltwater and maybe saltwater is not good for this so the idea stalled. Carrying huge amounts of fresh water would be a non starter in any boat that would benefit and canal water into your combustion chambers wouldn't have many takers!
|
|
|
Post by larkboy on Jul 12, 2017 22:26:39 GMT
I would have thought the hydrogen fuel cell is the way to go, you get the range, the cars are still electric and the only waste product is water. The oil companies have their networks of forecourts, all they need to do is install a storage and delivery system for liquid hydrogen. I seem to recall that Honda and Shell partnered on this in the U.S in California in the early 2000's using the Honda Civic. I know a motorcycle has been produce where the fuel cell could be removed from the bike and used as a stand alone generator.
|
|
|
Post by naughtyfox on Jul 13, 2017 5:48:58 GMT
Water cooking in our kettle and wood smoke coming out da chimney. Was up at 5.15 for a stroll round and to take some piccies. How many atoms get split when you bang a mooring pin in?
|
|
|
Post by Stumpy on Jul 26, 2017 0:21:24 GMT
Looks like we're heading the same way..... LINK I would have thought; Mr BP, Texaco, Chevron etc etc etc are going to be mightily pissed off.
|
|
|
Post by peterboat on Jul 26, 2017 7:48:07 GMT
I think it will happen long before then, the raft of measures that local authorities will take to clean up their areas will be punitive. Same for us in boats where they pass through high pollution zones we will I suspect be either banned or pay a daily charge for being there very interesting times ahead what price a hybrid system on a boat now then?
|
|