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Nov 15, 2020 20:18:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 20:18:43 GMT
This is because all right minded people think that other people wearing face coverings reduces their chances of getting the infection, it is a very easy thing to do and that people who object to it on some irrational conspiracy-theory grounds are very antisocial because their stupidity and gullibility poses a clear and present danger to other people. Are you for real? I mean, do you have some type of mental health issue going on? I mean, if you, TellyMackus, are wearing a face mask then you are protected from the virus and it doesn't matter what anyone else does, surely? No the "other people" and "their" refer to two different groups. People wearing face masks are saving other people, who they don't know from Adam, from an indeterminably shockingly awful slow and painful death. It's a bit like the cyclist thing. People riding bicycles are saving the planet so that other people, who don't ride bicycles, have a chance of not succumbing to another awful type of armageddon. It's actually quite an admirable job when you think about it. They should be clapped for.
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Nov 15, 2020 20:38:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 20:38:38 GMT
This is because all right minded people think that other people wearing face coverings reduces their chances of getting the infection, it is a very easy thing to do and that people who object to it on some irrational conspiracy-theory grounds are very antisocial because their stupidity and gullibility poses a clear and present danger to other people. Are you for real? I mean, do you have some type of mental health issue going on? I mean, if you, TellyMackus, are wearing a face mask then you are protected from the virus and it doesn't matter what anyone else does, surely? If we ban all traffic from the roads, it would prevent pedestrians getting run over when they cross. ....I'm sure there was an alternative, but I've forgotten what it was now....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 22:02:54 GMT
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 15, 2020 22:53:16 GMT
This is because all right minded people think that other people wearing face coverings reduces their chances of getting the infection, Ok. What is the difference between believing that wearing a non clinically approved and ill fitting mask reduces the chances of infections and believing in a conspiracy theory? It's very easy for people with no knowledge whatsoever of the mechanism of virus transmission to assume that wearing a face covering of some sort is a magic bullet but surely it is also easy for other people to believe that being able to see another human face when interacting with them is a fundamentally important freedom. People who feel like they are about to kill others by transmitting a virus should just wrap their heads up with that heavy duty cling film stuff. Ok so they may die from hypoxia but surely self sacrifice is better than killing other people .. Because the view that wearing a face covering substantially reduces the spread of the infection lies with intelligent people who follow the science. It is evidence-based, to use a well worn idiom. The opposite view lies with ill educated and unintelligent people who didn’t even go to a proper school, and is not based on science, only on mass hysteria and the predisposition of uncivilised people to believe in fantasy.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 15, 2020 23:04:07 GMT
This is because all right minded people think that other people wearing face coverings reduces their chances of getting the infection, it is a very easy thing to do and that people who object to it on some irrational conspiracy-theory grounds are very antisocial because their stupidity and gullibility poses a clear and present danger to other people. Are you for real? I mean, do you have some type of mental health issue going on? I mean, if you, TellyMackus, are wearing a face mask then you are protected from the virus and it doesn't matter what anyone else does, surely? You really are quite a dumdum (that’s Greek for a thick twat). A face covering mostly protects other people, it gives little protection to the wearer. And the science behind that is quite straightforward for anyone with any basic understanding of physics. Allow me to mansplain it to you... When you exhale through nose or mouth, the breath contains small droplets of all that liquid gunge you keep inside yourself. Commonly known (to anyone with a modicum of intelligence) as an aerosol. If you have the infection that aerosol is heavily laced with the virus that your body has been hijacked to create. Even though some of the breath may blow around the covering and escape, the droplets are a bit heavier and tend to go straight on and be absorbed by the covering. If you don’t wear a mask, the water in virus-laden droplets in the aerosol rapidly evaporate such that within a short distance From your body each droplet has shrunk in size by around a factor of 10. Less water, same amount of virus. Now that the particles are 10 times smaller they can easily pass through the sort of material that face masks and face coverings are made from, thus the person near the selfish git not wearing a mask stands a good chance of receiving the infection despite wearing a mask. In summary, face coverings are worn to protect others, not the wearer. Did you really not “get” that in all the discussion over the last 6 months or more?
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Nov 16, 2020 6:42:34 GMT
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Post by lollygagger on Nov 16, 2020 6:42:34 GMT
Amazing how many months, MONTHS!!! it took for these brainy scientists to agree it was worth wearing masks. This was hotly disputed for all that time by BRAINY SCINTISTS, many were arguing that it was pointless and even dangerous to the wearer.
Now it's undisputed and not wearing one is heavily fined. What were we waiting for? Was it so some Tory connected arseholes could position themselves in the mask supply line to cream off a fat profit? Let's not forget the unsuitable types given the PPE contracts early on.
Just sayin.
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Nov 16, 2020 7:11:47 GMT
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Post by Jim on Nov 16, 2020 7:11:47 GMT
posted this before, clear and simple innit. How low must someone's IQ be not to understand it. Staple gun a mask to their face say I, that'll learn em. Did I hear a squeak about Freedom and Rights, ah yes the right and freedom to spread Coronavirus and infect others willy nilly. I'd make them sit on a chair all day in a confined space, hard labour!
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 16, 2020 7:26:45 GMT
Strange, it's one of those "these comments have been moderated in advance" items and every single comment is hugely supportive of the enormous fines being handed out whereas an identical article permitting unmoderated comments would consist overwhelmingly of comments pointing out the tyranny and state control in action here. Presumably such comments are still being submitted but are not approved by zee moderatorz. This is because all right minded people think that other people wearing face coverings reduces their chances of getting the infection, it is a very easy thing to do and that people who object to it on some irrational conspiracy-theory grounds are very antisocial because their stupidity and gullibility poses a clear and present danger to other people. I wear a mask on my bus. And so does my fox.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 16, 2020 7:40:15 GMT
Are you for real? I mean, do you have some type of mental health issue going on? I mean, if you, TellyMackus, are wearing a face mask then you are protected from the virus and it doesn't matter what anyone else does, surely? You really are quite a dumdum (that’s Greek for a thick twat). A face covering mostly protects other people, it gives little protection to the wearer. And the science behind that is quite straightforward for anyone with any basic understanding of physics. Allow me to mansplain it to you... When you exhale through nose or mouth, the breath contains small droplets of all that liquid gunge you keep inside yourself. Commonly known (to anyone with a modicum of intelligence) as an aerosol. If you have the infection that aerosol is heavily laced with the virus that your body has been hijacked to create. Even though some of the breath may blow around the covering and escape, the droplets are a bit heavier and tend to go straight on and be absorbed by the covering. If you don’t wear a mask, the water in virus-laden droplets in the aerosol rapidly evaporate such that within a short distance From your body each droplet has shrunk in size by around a factor of 10. Less water, same amount of virus. Now that the particles are 10 times smaller they can easily pass through the sort of material that face masks and face coverings are made from, thus the person near the selfish git not wearing a mask stands a good chance of receiving the infection despite wearing a mask. In summary, face coverings are worn to protect others, not the wearer. Did you really not “get” that in all the discussion over the last 6 months or more? You do realise that one piece of research after the next has all come to the same conclusion, that face masks are wholly ineffective against the spread of coronavirus? swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 16, 2020 8:20:39 GMT
You really are quite a dumdum (that’s Greek for a thick twat). A face covering mostly protects other people, it gives little protection to the wearer. And the science behind that is quite straightforward for anyone with any basic understanding of physics. Allow me to mansplain it to you... When you exhale through nose or mouth, the breath contains small droplets of all that liquid gunge you keep inside yourself. Commonly known (to anyone with a modicum of intelligence) as an aerosol. If you have the infection that aerosol is heavily laced with the virus that your body has been hijacked to create. Even though some of the breath may blow around the covering and escape, the droplets are a bit heavier and tend to go straight on and be absorbed by the covering. If you don’t wear a mask, the water in virus-laden droplets in the aerosol rapidly evaporate such that within a short distance From your body each droplet has shrunk in size by around a factor of 10. Less water, same amount of virus. Now that the particles are 10 times smaller they can easily pass through the sort of material that face masks and face coverings are made from, thus the person near the selfish git not wearing a mask stands a good chance of receiving the infection despite wearing a mask. In summary, face coverings are worn to protect others, not the wearer. Did you really not “get” that in all the discussion over the last 6 months or more? You do realise that one piece of research after the next has all come to the same conclusion, that face masks are wholly ineffective against the spread of coronavirus? swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/You do realise that that web link is exactly the sort of fake news spreading stuff that is causing people to die unnecessarily? Can’t be bothered to debunk it fully but I will just point out one thing about it. For most of the reports cited against mask wearing, they use terms such as “found that...” whereas for the reports in favour of masks they use the term “claimed that”. Just that one piece of biased reporting shows their agenda. Plus of course all the encouragement to share on social media. You really are incredibly gullible! The general evidence is plain to see, in the Far East there has long been a culture of wearing face masks. Despite high population density, they have got off pretty lightly with CV - but because that fact doesn’t suit your bias you will no doubt ignore it and go “la la la” with fingers in ears.
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Nov 16, 2020 8:46:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 8:46:30 GMT
You really are quite a dumdum (that’s Greek for a thick twat). A face covering mostly protects other people, it gives little protection to the wearer. And the science behind that is quite straightforward for anyone with any basic understanding of physics. Allow me to mansplain it to you... When you exhale through nose or mouth, the breath contains small droplets of all that liquid gunge you keep inside yourself. Commonly known (to anyone with a modicum of intelligence) as an aerosol. If you have the infection that aerosol is heavily laced with the virus that your body has been hijacked to create. Even though some of the breath may blow around the covering and escape, the droplets are a bit heavier and tend to go straight on and be absorbed by the covering. If you don’t wear a mask, the water in virus-laden droplets in the aerosol rapidly evaporate such that within a short distance From your body each droplet has shrunk in size by around a factor of 10. Less water, same amount of virus. Now that the particles are 10 times smaller they can easily pass through the sort of material that face masks and face coverings are made from, thus the person near the selfish git not wearing a mask stands a good chance of receiving the infection despite wearing a mask. In summary, face coverings are worn to protect others, not the wearer. Did you really not “get” that in all the discussion over the last 6 months or more? You do realise that one piece of research after the next has all come to the same conclusion, that face masks are wholly ineffective against the spread of coronavirus? swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/Having just looked through that link and recognised the graphs and style it's the same place where the twat Justin on cwdf gets all his bullshit information from. Totally discredited 😷
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 8:51:34 GMT
You do realise that one piece of research after the next has all come to the same conclusion, that face masks are wholly ineffective against the spread of coronavirus? swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/You do realise that that web link is exactly the sort of fake news spreading stuff that is causing people to die unnecessarily? Can’t be bothered to debunk it fully but I will just point out one thing about it. For most of the reports cited against mask wearing, they use terms such as “found that...” whereas for the reports in favour of masks they use the term “claimed that”. Just that one piece of biased reporting shows their agenda. Plus of course all the encouragement to share on social media. You really are incredibly gullible! The general evidence is plain to see, in the Far East there has long been a culture of wearing face masks. Despite high population density, they have got off pretty lightly with CV - but because that fact doesn’t suit your bias you will no doubt ignore it and go “la la la” with fingers in ears. If it was such a good idea, nature would have built us with a mask. My problem with it is that the World Health Organisation have said all along that they are only benificial if you can't maintain at least 1m spacing. Back in the middle of the last lockdown we were managing 2m quite well in supermarkets without masks. Masks have now become the latest fashion accessory and like all PPE is adding to our obsession witn dumping crap into the environment to make money. Has anyone researched what a nice damp warm environment (face covering) does for bacteria and human cells carrying virurses? Has anyone researched the psycolgical effects of wearing masks?I couldn't find anything, but I've seen childern cry. Maybe the problem isn't so much the limited evidence from studies promoting these measures, it's the lack of research into the side effects of all these measures, probably because that doesn't make money.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 16, 2020 9:15:30 GMT
You do realise that that web link is exactly the sort of fake news spreading stuff that is causing people to die unnecessarily? Can’t be bothered to debunk it fully but I will just point out one thing about it. For most of the reports cited against mask wearing, they use terms such as “found that...” whereas for the reports in favour of masks they use the term “claimed that”. Just that one piece of biased reporting shows their agenda. Plus of course all the encouragement to share on social media. You really are incredibly gullible! The general evidence is plain to see, in the Far East there has long been a culture of wearing face masks. Despite high population density, they have got off pretty lightly with CV - but because that fact doesn’t suit your bias you will no doubt ignore it and go “la la la” with fingers in ears. If it was such a good idea, nature would have built us with a mask. Evolution has provided humans with big brains and enough intelligence for them to make their own masks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 9:23:16 GMT
If it was such a good idea, nature would have built us with a mask. Evolution has provided humans with big brains and enough intelligence for them to make their own masks. ...but apparently not enough intelligence to research the side effects of wearing masks....same with the lockdown really. It's a lottery.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 16, 2020 9:38:48 GMT
The lockdown is driving Boris's squeeze nut nuts.
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