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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 15, 2020 18:08:13 GMT
I'm not particularly political but would fall on the Labour side if being political was a requirement. I would like to be, but quite simply Labour nowadays are (and have been for several decades) simply Conservatives in red ties. Had they been a Brexit supporting party at the last General Election they would be in power now, but they refused to listen to their core voter base in the Midlands and North who have seen wage stagnation for some 15 years now due to arbitrage issues caused by the use of cheap labour from post-Communist economies, so if nothing else they needed to be given a bloody nose for turning their backs on the working class in favour of the right-on Islington set which controls Labour's direction nowadays and despise people like me.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 15, 2020 18:10:07 GMT
It must be quite funny being a Tory. Having no opposition means you can just do whatever you like and be completely incompetent and still get back into office. The simple fact is the next PM will be a Tory and not someone elected by the public. Then at the next election it will be Tories again. And so on and so on. I'm not particularly political but would fall on the Labour side if being political was a requirement. I do often wonder if the whole Brexit thing was partly an attempt to bury Labour for a long time. If it was then the tories should be very grateful for the "he looks well dodgy" man with the eyesight issue. Things only really change when enough people are pissed off enough to make a change. I guess we must all be happy at the moment. You're not allowed out. You'll get fined. Stay Home, Save Money. A bus passenger has been fined more than £1,700 after refusing to wear a face mask on a London bus for two days in a row. Passenger Frederick Adomako-Frimpong, 49, from Stratford, east London, was slapped with a £1,710 fine for refusing to wear a face covering on two occasions. A court heard he had provided 'no reasonable excuse' for not having a suitable covering at Stratford bus station on July 15 and he was stopped again by Transport for London (TfL) staff the following day for the same reason. He was among dozens of people fined at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on Friday for failing to wear a mask on public transport in July. Mr Adomako-Frimpong was given a combined fine of £1,710 for the offences after not paying his fixed penalty notice of £100 within 28 days. Another passenger Sarian Kamara, 30, from Westminster, was ordered to pay £194 for not having a face covering on a bus on July 15. The pregnant mother-of-three said she had dropped her face covering while running to catch the bus. Although she was handed a covering by a fellow bus passenger but was told by a member of staff that she would be fined anyway. Another defendant, Akam Rostami, 20, from Liverpool, was also fined but told the court via an interpreter that he could not speak English and did not know what the rules on masks were. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8950997/Bus-passenger-fined-1-700-refusing-wear-face-mask-London-bus-two-days-row.html
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 18:13:06 GMT
The £1700 one is a bit of a dickhead for not paying the £100. Of course if he had no money then presumably the £1710 fine resulted in nothing other than court fees presumably paid by government in some way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 18:17:40 GMT
I'm not particularly political but would fall on the Labour side if being political was a requirement. I would like to be, but quite simply Labour nowadays are (and have been for several decades) simply Conservatives in red ties. Had they been a Brexit supporting party at the last General Election they would be in power now, but they refused to listen to their core voter base in the Midlands and North who have seen wage stagnation for some 15 years now due to arbitrage issues caused by the use of cheap labour from post-Communist economies, so if nothing else they needed to be given a bloody nose for turning their backs on the working class in favour of the right-on Islington set which controls Labour's direction nowadays and despise people like me. I'm apolitical but the irony now is that the Conservatives are now becoming more Communist in blue ties. Money (well greed) always talks. What goes around, comes around I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 18:20:49 GMT
The £1700 one is a bit of a dickhead for not paying the £100. Of course if he had no money then presumably the £1710 fine resulted in nothing other than court fees presumably paid by government in some way. [conspiricy theory hat on] Yes, but that's a very cheap way for the main stream media to create fear and sell papers. [conspiricy theory hat off]
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 18:23:19 GMT
Speaking of money it looks like our Rishi, who is going to be the next unelected Prime Minister, is going to be having a very very very wealthy wife soon. A lot more very very wealthy than even some of the more very wealthy Tories one could think of. This is his wife's old man en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N._R._Narayana_MurthyShould be enough for a loft extension there
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 15, 2020 19:05:24 GMT
Strange, it's one of those "these comments have been moderated in advance" items and every single comment is hugely supportive of the enormous fines being handed out whereas an identical article permitting unmoderated comments would consist overwhelmingly of comments pointing out the tyranny and state control in action here. Presumably such comments are still being submitted but are not approved by zee moderatorz.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 15, 2020 19:06:23 GMT
'Covid Marshals' have been taken on in Dorset to patrol 'Covid hotspots' and ensure residents and businesses are complying with government lockdown rules. The marshals have been funded through a £30 million grant from the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government which was allocated to all district and unitary authorities in England to spend on Covid-19 related compliance and enforcement activities. They will work closely with Dorset Council and Dorset-based company Event Security Southern. "Event Security Southern Ltd is the South Coast's largest supplier of security services. We are Dorchester and Weymouth's only approved contractor for the provision of door supervision and security guarding as awarded by the Security Industry Authority. All our officers have completed the ACT: Action Counters Terrorism e-learning course." 'Counters Terrorism', eh? As in dangerously radicalised kitchen worktops? www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/18864335.covid-marshals-go-patrol-dorset/DORSET Police has thanked residents and businesses for their 'compliance and co-operation' with Covid regulations - as they revealed the force had received 136 calls about people breaching the law during the second national lockdown. The first week of Tier 4 national restrictions has seen 136 Covid-19 calls made to Dorset Police, with 30 of those calls on Saturday, November 7 and 31 calls on Sunday, November 8 2020. The majority of these calls related to reports of people gathering in groups. A total of five fixed penalty notices have been issued in Bournemouth and Poole areas to enforce the COVID-19 legislation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 19:15:17 GMT
Strange, it's one of those "these comments have been moderated in advance" items and every single comment is hugely supportive of the enormous fines being handed out whereas an identical article permitting unmoderated comments would consist overwhelmingly of comments pointing out the tyranny and state control in action here. Presumably such comments are still being submitted but are not approved by zee moderatorz. France infos is a good one for comments. Translated automatically by Google on my phone. The frogs are well and truly pissed off. To be fair I think it is technically a requirement of being French to be generally hacked off about everything but this Covid bollocks is really winding them up. ""Slavery is never so successful as when the slave is convinced that it is for his own good!" >> ARISTOTLE www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/maladie/coronavirus/covid-19-jean-castex-prepare-des-regles-pour-les-francais-sur-le-temps-long_4181187.html"The deprivation of fundamental freedoms on the move." Interesting translation as it doesn't quite get the message across. "On the move" is "en marche" which is the party name of the current government.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 15, 2020 19:22:57 GMT
Strange, it's one of those "these comments have been moderated in advance" items and every single comment is hugely supportive of the enormous fines being handed out whereas an identical article permitting unmoderated comments would consist overwhelmingly of comments pointing out the tyranny and state control in action here. Presumably such comments are still being submitted but are not approved by zee moderatorz. 'Comments have not been moderated in advance' does not mean they haven't been deleted! There are often replies to what would seem to have been comments which are... no more. I wonder if the people who are moderating & deleting as they see fit ever get tired of reading and reading and reading... ...all in all, despite having followed events since March, I can't envision how things look like in the UK right now. There was a photo of Oxford Circus Underground station Saturday evening (yesterday) at 9pm... platform devoid of people... suggesting Covid has devastated London and everyone is at home... but there is a light in the tunnel and I'm thinking it could mean a train has just gone so it's no wonder the platform is empty just after the wheels are still kicking up dust. How about church services for this Christmas? Are they on? Midnight Mass on 24th? Christmas Morning Service?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 19:31:55 GMT
Roads arrr still very busy in the big smoke. But that's probably because of the "don't use public transport" message.
Probably quite a nice time to travel by train. The last lockdown was amazing.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 15, 2020 19:58:43 GMT
Strange, it's one of those "these comments have been moderated in advance" items and every single comment is hugely supportive of the enormous fines being handed out whereas an identical article permitting unmoderated comments would consist overwhelmingly of comments pointing out the tyranny and state control in action here. Presumably such comments are still being submitted but are not approved by zee moderatorz. This is because all right minded people think that other people wearing face coverings reduces their chances of getting the infection, it is a very easy thing to do and that people who object to it on some irrational conspiracy-theory grounds are very antisocial because their stupidity and gullibility poses a clear and present danger to other people.
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Post by phil70 on Nov 15, 2020 19:58:45 GMT
I'm like "A peck of dirt" isn't it. And a peck is a lot of dirt (amongst other things) Phil
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 20:06:37 GMT
This is because all right minded people think that other people wearing face coverings reduces their chances of getting the infection, Ok. What is the difference between believing that wearing a non clinically approved and ill fitting mask reduces the chances of infections and believing in a conspiracy theory? It's very easy for people with no knowledge whatsoever of the mechanism of virus transmission to assume that wearing a face covering of some sort is a magic bullet but surely it is also easy for other people to believe that being able to see another human face when interacting with them is a fundamentally important freedom. People who feel like they are about to kill others by transmitting a virus should just wrap their heads up with that heavy duty cling film stuff. Ok so they may die from hypoxia but surely self sacrifice is better than killing other people ..
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 15, 2020 20:10:26 GMT
Strange, it's one of those "these comments have been moderated in advance" items and every single comment is hugely supportive of the enormous fines being handed out whereas an identical article permitting unmoderated comments would consist overwhelmingly of comments pointing out the tyranny and state control in action here. Presumably such comments are still being submitted but are not approved by zee moderatorz. This is because all right minded people think that other people wearing face coverings reduces their chances of getting the infection, it is a very easy thing to do and that people who object to it on some irrational conspiracy-theory grounds are very antisocial because their stupidity and gullibility poses a clear and present danger to other people. Are you for real? I mean, do you have some type of mental health issue going on? I mean, if you, TellyMackus, are wearing a face mask then you are protected from the virus and it doesn't matter what anyone else does, surely?
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