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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 9:22:21 GMT
I didn't realise that in the US some States have legalised cannabis (California, Nevada, Maine and Massachusetts).
Now talk of same thing here.
I don't use it myself but I would be 100% in favour of legalisation. I have children - I think they would be much safer in a future with legal cannabis than shady dealers IF they wish to try it in the same way they may wish to use alcohol for recreational purposes.
I think it would be a great move but something tells me it won't happen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 9:34:14 GMT
Long term use of it is associated with paranoia. I wouldn't want to be on the road with young, stoned drivers. Maybe legalise it for medical use - ie via your GP.
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Post by Delta9 on Nov 21, 2016 9:42:18 GMT
Long term use of it is associated with paranoia. I wouldn't want to be on the road with young, stoned drivers. Maybe legalise it for medical use - ie via your GP. I wouldn't want to be on the road with young drunk drivers either but we still manage to have legal alcohol... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 9:47:46 GMT
But society has come to accept that drink-driving is unacceptable. Plus, cannabis effects last a long time. But I take your point.
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Post by Delta9 on Nov 21, 2016 10:00:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 10:07:20 GMT
Yes, I'm in favour of legalisation for medicinal and recreational use.
It can't be argued that prohibition has worked and the illegal trade funds far too much other criminality.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 10:12:01 GMT
Thanks, quite interesting. "THC is stored in fat cells and expelled from the body over a period of days or weeks, depending on the frequency of use and the amount used. This is why drug tests for cannabis use can give a positive result long after the effect of the drug has worn off."
so I don't see how you can claim that its effects last for less time.
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Post by Delta9 on Nov 21, 2016 10:17:33 GMT
Thanks, quite interesting. "THC is stored in fat cells and expelled from the body over a period of days or weeks, depending on the frequency of use and the amount used. This is why drug tests for cannabis use can give a positive result long after the effect of the drug has worn off. so I don't see how you can claim that its effects last for less time. Did you miss the bit that said "long after the effect of the drug has worn off"? The THC that is stored in the fat cells has already been metabolised and has no psychoactive effects. The effects last a few hours (a bit longer if you eat instead of smoke it) and are less severe than the effects of alcohol. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 10:25:04 GMT
Long term use of it is associated with paranoia. I wouldn't want to be on the road with young, stoned drivers. Maybe legalise it for medical use - ie via your GP. " _-------- But I am certain that you are already on the road with stoned young drivers. Its not like it being "illegal" stops people using it rather it makes its use more risky and youngsters come into contact with people who have an agenda regarding selling other products. I'd rather my kids bought cannabis from a shop and the tax went to the state rather than just enabling a dealer to buy a bigger 4x4 ! I don't really agree with legalising class A drugs btw or at least if it were considered it should be very strict. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 10:28:26 GMT
Many years ago I browsed a report on a government sponsored study of recreational drugs. It gave a 'star' rating for the 'strength' of each drug. If I remember correctly, cannabis came out on a similar level to caffeine. Alcohol was at a similar level to cocaine. Apparently it's mixing cannabis with alcohol which is really bad.
I would have no objection to it being legalised.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 10:34:24 GMT
The half life of a drug is the amount of time it takes for measured amounts in the bloodstream or urine to decrease by half. The half life for THC is long, because THC is stored in the body’s fat cells (THC is highly lipid and not easily dissolved in water). Therefore, the blood plasma and urinary half-life of THC are best estimated at 3 – 4 days after ingestion. But depending on the quantity of THC ingested and frequency of use, half life may even extend to 10-12 days after ingestion.
Alcohol doesn't have a half life and is metabolised at a steady rate, So for moderate intoxication I think alcohol's effects will wear off more quickly, indeed this is my experience.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 10:36:34 GMT
Thanks, quite interesting. "THC is stored in fat cells and expelled from the body over a period of days or weeks, depending on the frequency of use and the amount used. This is why drug tests for cannabis use can give a positive result long after the effect of the drug has worn off. so I don't see how you can claim that its effects last for less time. Did you miss the bit that said "long after the effect of the drug has worn off"? The THC that is stored in the fat cells has already been metabolised and has no psychoactive effects. The effects last a few hours (a bit longer if you eat instead of smoke it) and are less severe than the effects of alcohol. I wonder how many people have spotted the connection between your forum name and this thread.  |
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Post by Delta9 on Nov 21, 2016 10:47:08 GMT
The half life of a drug is the amount of time it takes for measured amounts in the bloodstream or urine to decrease by half. The half life for THC is long, because THC is stored in the body’s fat cells (THC is highly lipid and not easily dissolved in water). Therefore, the blood plasma and urinary half-life of THC are best estimated at 3 – 4 days after ingestion. But depending on the quantity of THC ingested and frequency of use, half life may even extend to 10-12 days after ingestion. Alcohol doesn't have a half life and is metabolised at a steady rate, So for moderate intoxication I think alcohol's effects will wear off more quickly, indeed this is my experience. THC is also metabolised at a steady rate... as I already pointed out, it is the metabolised canabinoids that are stored. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 10:52:09 GMT
The half life of a drug is the amount of time it takes for measured amounts in the bloodstream or urine to decrease by half. The half life for THC is long, because THC is stored in the body’s fat cells (THC is highly lipid and not easily dissolved in water). Therefore, the blood plasma and urinary half-life of THC are best estimated at 3 – 4 days after ingestion. But depending on the quantity of THC ingested and frequency of use, half life may even extend to 10-12 days after ingestion. Alcohol doesn't have a half life and is metabolised at a steady rate, So for moderate intoxication I think alcohol's effects will wear off more quickly, indeed this is my experience. Well I'm going back in time a bit, but I can say that the only thing I didn't like about it's effects was that you'd wake up in the morning still feeling stoned. So yes, it's effects do last longer. I like to feel refreshed and clear in the head when I wake up. The only time I'd have that problem with alcohol (feeling pissed when I wake up) is if I'd had loads of spirits late into the night. It's not a good thing to do if you have to drive in the morning! Actually, there is another downside to cannabis. Being slightly of paranoid nature, it caused a panic attack once. |
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Post by peterboat on Nov 21, 2016 10:53:56 GMT
I have watched the films that show the after affects of cannabis would you want soldiers with guns using this stuff? Its an easy call to legalise it far better to force all dealers to ingest smoke all their product when caught No dealers = no problem!!
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